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we are live uh thanks everybody for

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being here

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from Michael VI who I'm going to bring

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in in two seconds

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I don't know if you guys have ever

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listen to any of my interviews with

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Michael but he is one of the more

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knowledgeable people I know

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Eric Davis is up there Michael Vai is up

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there as far as ufology and related

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topics and I'm going to bring Michael in

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here and we're going to talk about Sean

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Kirkpatrick and his testimony

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the other day

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hey Michael how you doing hey Joe doing

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well I'm not I I don't like introducing

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people I like when they introduce

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themselves so just for people who don't

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know who you are for the first time ever

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just briefly describe who you are in

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your background

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okay

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um I am a former Naval cryptologist uh

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an Iranian linguist

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a naval air crewman

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I had 350 combat flight hours in in

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Operation Desert Storm

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back in the in 1991

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I've worked for

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let's just say well over 20 years

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in the intelligence and defense

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community

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specifically my area of expertise is

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um what I call Overhead

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which is non-air breathing which means

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satellites uh intelligence collection

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predominantly signals intelligence

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I currently work now for probably the

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world's oldest I.T company

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as a cyber security consultant and I

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um I'm still clear so I still have to be

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very careful about what I say

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with this topic or anything else so

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pleasure to be here yeah glad to have

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you again always great and basically so

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just overall you watch you got to see

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Sean Kirkpatrick speak

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at the hearing

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what are your thoughts I know we we kind

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of battled a little bit over it when I

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first spoke to you about it

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um but I mean I'm more in line of what

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you have to say but I have some issues

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but my issues my issues are more with

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all not Kirkpatrick it's the whole

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system but basically so tell me what you

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thought overall and we'll get into

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specifics yeah so so we'll screen share

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it a minute and I'll have have my notes

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my bullet points

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um that the bottom line for me I was I

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was really impressed with how sober

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and attentive to detail that he was uh

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which was refreshing compared to the

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first testimony when the UAP task force

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guys and I forget their names doesn't

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matter uh mulch tree

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yeah they really I wouldn't say they

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gave it all short shrift they just were

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grossly unprepared and whenever you go

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reconnaissance office or CIA or hey pick

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um you need to come prepared and I

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didn't feel that they came prepared and

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clearly they were not based on the

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questions that were asked and the ones

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that they couldn't answer

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um but this guy I was roundly impressed

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with him and there are lots of reasons

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that I can cite as to why that is a lot

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of it stems from my background and

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intellectually scary people

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that I've ever met in my life by that I

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you you are challenged to in in my line

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of work to present information that is

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and you best be knowledgeable and on

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point and don't waste their time and so

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I and I when I first watched it I I was

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like all right there were some things

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thinking now I know why Michael thought

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you know so highly of him because yeah

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he's obviously was prepared

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um I had no issues with you know overall

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what he's talking about what arrow is

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possible and not come to any conclusions

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unless unless they have enough data um

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but you know my issues and they're

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specific things that he said that it

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were a little annoying to me when he's

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talking about not doing science science

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by blog and Mike I understand you know I

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don't think we should be doing that

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obviously um but my problem is and I

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know you I'm I know you agree the data

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to it what I don't know and I would love

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locked up in some special access program

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very you know almost impossible to get

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line crash retrieval you know alleged

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crash retrieval special access program

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does Kirkpatrick not have the 23 minute

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video that's my big that's one of my

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questions it's it's not so think about

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the venue right there were there were

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two brief things closed door public we

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saw the public we should not have seen

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uh or heard reference to anything that

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was super sensitive that's all probably

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most assuredly something that could have

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that kind of he doesn't already

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it's like they're really small objects

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minute video why that doesn't make it

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he was being very careful he was being

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very appropriate about sharing

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information in a public public domain so

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months or years do you think he's seen

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public forum is going to open up the

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proverbial can of worms there he's not

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going to put the Senators whether there

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not going to open up that can of worms

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let's let's let's bring in your screen

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has I know you think he has access to

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everything he should have access to

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everything as far as I mean I don't

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think he has access to a if there's a

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crash retrieval program I don't think

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he's been given need to know access for

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that but talking about the videos all

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yeah and if if he has access to that

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stuff you see that because it's all your

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no that's not what you're supposed to be

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seeing so that's that's your screen

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let me yeah let me

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let me if we can't get to it yeah we

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just did it we just did it we tested it

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only three Senators showed up with other

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staffers and a lot of it has to do a lot

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of it is Stanford there we go

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well that's us that is it there you go

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okay all right so let's get started so I

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but bottom line up front

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I thought he was super prepared

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he took it super seriously and he did a

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technical Acumen the Mastery of the

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subject matter and and a keen and semi

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seemingly sincere attitude that was I

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several times he mentioned these what he

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called the interagency now for folks

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that don't know if there are what 17

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intelligence agencies in the United

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they are who they are

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but he talked about the importance of

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the tie-ins or the connections and data

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interagency I thought that was pretty

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answers while you know maintaining

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scientific rigor and thoroughness he's

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now the the one thing I didn't

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paraphrase but the bottom line is

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this takes money

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so if you go back to Lou Elizondo

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indeed it is or could be a threat

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but the way you get the attention of DOD

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things we need to be worried about AKA a

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threat so where I'm going with this is

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than impressed with just his lead off

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when he was in his opening statements

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so just so people know

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it's probably the way my mind works is

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different from anybody else's mind

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because we're all different we're all

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human

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but I probably overly highlight

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but everything I have agreed because we

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have time okay so everything in green

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are things that I thought what you know

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was something important and then I've

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got some red highlighted that I thought

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was you know sort of like the horse

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stomping the barn floor

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so right off the bat he's talking about

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the threat we're trying to prevent a

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technical or intelligent surprise okay

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whether that's from a foreign adversary

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country which they've pretty much ruled

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out in a lot of the cases that most of

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us know about

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um how could it possibly be and we keep

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such good tabs without going into

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details on our adversaries we kind of

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know what the technical state of the art

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is whether it's North Korea China Russia

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France you name it so we're trying to

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avoid a technical or intelligence

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surprise

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um

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and here's the thing you know the

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Congress and the Department of Defense

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which also the IC the intelligence

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Community it it's uh it cannot go

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unexamined or unaddressed any longer now

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my contention is that's part of

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my French

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well you know we've talked about it

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before I don't for one minute believe

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it's gone unaddressed okay right he's

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but he's in a public forum so just you

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got to kind of you know interpret what

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he's saying and remember when people are

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telling you something you have to it's

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important to think about what they're

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telling you and why they want you to

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believe what they're saying whether it's

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in the news or Kirkpatrick talking to to

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the Senate

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right there's a purpose and a method to

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the information that's being delivered

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so you said he's in a public forum let

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me just since it's relevant to what

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you're saying Russ is like he said

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nothing that breaks the you know they've

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seen nothing that breaks the laws of

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known physics so he has not seen truly

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anomalous craft in any video is he lying

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or do they know the physics that these

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anomalous craft operate under well okay

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so now if you want to take a tangent

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here for just a second you know about my

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my love of of the book unconventional

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flying objects by Paul Hill the NASA

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Langley aerodynamicists that studied

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this stuff for NASA with NASA uh and was

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NASA and was it part of a team I mean he

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was part of a team he wasn't doing it

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doing it in a vacuum in the 50s 60s 70s

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and he concluded that these things do

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not break the laws of physics they just

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do physics in a way that did we can't do

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yet right apparently apparently it was

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understandable back in that back in

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decades ago

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um so here the spotlight on UAP in

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recent months underscores the importance

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of its work and the need for it to be

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taken seriously as a matter of National

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Security hey that's the reason that's

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how you get funding right it's a matter

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of National Security and even if it's

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and if it is whatever it is non-human

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whatever it still could be a matter of

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National Security since we don't know

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the intent we don't know intent yeah

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yeah

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so what he's doing here in this next

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line is that he's talking about the

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tie-ins across all the relevant bodies

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right Department of Defense the

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intelligence community and I thought

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this was interesting Department of

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energy you know we know that's a black

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hole for researchers trying to go find

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out what the doe which is has cognizance

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over all of our nuclear equities right

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um and we know that these objects

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over the over the years have shown

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interest in our nuclear capabilities so

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that to me if he's got if his if his

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Department if his if arrow is is is

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cooperating with doe that is a watershed

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moment for me

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I I was surprised at that

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um and then the scientific and the and

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and the industrial communities uh that's

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kind of really broad he's just sort of

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trying to throw a net around things and

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sound thorough I think but I'm sure

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there's some reality to it all

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I thought this was interesting they get

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basically 36 people approximately three

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dozen experts

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um into four functional areas operations

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scientific

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integrated analysis and strategic

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Communications this

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is interesting

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strategic Communications so if you think

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about if you're operating on a

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battlefield that would be tactical stuff

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if you're operating at a national level

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talking about defending the nation those

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things are under a strategic

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umbrella

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the fact that he used strategic

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Communications

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I thought was interesting I don't know

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what he means by that but he used

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strategic okay pretty compelling

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um yeah and I had no I had no idea they

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had that much staff at this point so I

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was like pleasantly surprised let me

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just say up front if it wasn't for what

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we already knew and like we just came

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into this and this was two thousand

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let's just say this was 2016 or before

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the New York Times article I would be so

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excited about what I just heard from

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Kirkpatrick I'd be I cannot believe

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we're having a hearing on this with the

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charts and the shapes this is amazing so

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I'm kind of spoiled over the last couple

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of years and speaking and hearing from

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Eric Davis and other people about Crash

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retrievals so that's why when I first

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listen I'm like all right it's not

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really what I want but overall yes I

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agree there's some really good stuff

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there and potential to find out a lot of

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information

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yeah so if you take yourself back to

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2016 uh I was on I was in the summer of

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2016 I think it was I was on the way to

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a beach vacation on the Gulf Coast

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and I had one of Tom delong's books one

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of his secret machines books

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and I've watched all of his interviews

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over the years

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what we're seeing play out here is

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exactly

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what he said and Lou Elizondo has said

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and Chris Mellon has said it's exactly

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what they portended to all of us

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as far as the master plan

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so we're seeing the fruits of that

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initial effort I don't care if you like

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Tom DeLonge or or not

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but the impact that he and his entire

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group to the Stars

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the impact they've had

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we're seeing the fruits of it

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I would I would love to hear post

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hearing comments from Lua and Chris as

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far as I know that has not happened

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um yeah I don't think I have to say a

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word actually I think I think they're

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letting it just they're letting the

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snowball roll downhill

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yeah I hope so I hope that I would think

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if if they were happy about the hearing

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they would have said something I know

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Lou was a little hesitant when

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Kirkpatrick's name was announced but

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yeah I would still like to hear from

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them sorry go ahead yeah okay so so

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continuing on here other things that

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interest me here improve UAP data

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collection

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um

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and Reporting requirements

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and implementing a framework okay uh

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these are all

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words that you use when you're trying to

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prosecute a Target

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in the dod or the IC number one

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something becomes known that's a threat

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you have to have these various

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committees they have to

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prioritize what what's of Interest

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what's going on what are we seeing how

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do we deal with it how do we get more

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information how do we use our national

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systems meaning our satellites or our C

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based undersea Technologies whatever how

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do we bring all this to Bear to help us

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figure out what's going on meaning data

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collection you got to collect the data

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you need to have a standardized way and

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all this stuff is so laboriously boring

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and formalized it takes Legions of

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people to to write this stuff up and

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figure out because you just can't go hey

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Hey Joe can I use you're over at uh

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picking agency you have a satellite can

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I borrow it for 15 minutes to take a

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look at Brazil because somebody reported

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a UFO we want to take a look

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that it doesn't work that way you have

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to have it intelligently designed into

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if you want to think of like watching

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television when you pull up the guide

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these systems operate off of if you will

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a guide that's got everything listed by

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Time by priority and you've got to get

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your thing whatever your thing is so in

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this case UAP you've got to get it into

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the guide so that people can select it

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go do something with it view it watch it

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have a satellite deal with it whatever

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you've got to do that and then you have

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to have a way to get that information

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out which is what's referred to as

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reporting requirements

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who are you going to get that

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information out to is it going to go out

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broadly across the world to all the

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military people and all the intelligence

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people no because there's so much

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information you know Ukraine the China

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threat what have you Iran and then you

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got UAP stuff in there too that's

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you got to have enough uh bandwidth to

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get this stuff out there

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and so you've got to find a way to

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reasonably report it figure out who it

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needs to go to who needs that

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information so this is all pretty

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complex this this business right here in

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this paragraph is involves some

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complexity

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that our government is used to dealing

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with it's just it takes time but it's

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way more complex than people think

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um

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and then I thought you know looking at

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the government's UAP related historical

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record well that was interesting you

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know how far back does that goes they

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were told to go to 1945 which we think

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of the alleged Trinity case of valet

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has written about in research so yeah

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um I I wonder if he you know there's

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like there's a alleged Legacy crash

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retrieval program and there's alleged

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Legacy

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you know historical program with

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everything going back whether or not

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they have film videos back then I don't

551
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know if he has access to that but yeah

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it's nice to see it mentioned

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um

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I wish there would have been a little

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better questions from the Senators but I

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know I mean I know they had limited time

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but still I don't know if you saw we

558
00:24:27,770 --> 00:24:25,740
talked about there was a hearing about

559
00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:27,780
China and Hypersonic missiles what

560
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:30,120
Congressman Gates or gatz I'm not sure

561
00:24:33,529 --> 00:24:32,159
how to say his name but they were really

562
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:33,539
difficult on you Admiral we did talk

563
00:24:38,090 --> 00:24:36,360
about this and the Admiral's like this

564
00:24:39,649 --> 00:24:38,100
should probably be better in closed

565
00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:39,659
classified setting and he's like nope

566
00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:41,460
let's talk about it here

567
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:42,840
um which probably I don't think that was

568
00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:44,940
the right move but yeah I I

569
00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:46,919
I'm getting ahead of myself we we have

570
00:24:51,049 --> 00:24:48,539
another hearing supposedly coming up in

571
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,059
June which could be a little better on

572
00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:53,039
the UFO front but go ahead

573
00:24:59,210 --> 00:24:56,100
sorry well yeah so so we can come back

574
00:25:02,210 --> 00:24:59,220
to the to the gets questionnaires uh I

575
00:25:04,430 --> 00:25:02,220
think uh he was pressing being a little

576
00:25:05,930 --> 00:25:04,440
bit a little bit of idiosity in that uh

577
00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:05,940
there's there are there are certain

578
00:25:09,289 --> 00:25:07,260
things you just can't talk about in

579
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:09,299
public right uh and he was just kind of

580
00:25:13,690 --> 00:25:10,440
being an idiot because I think

581
00:25:16,610 --> 00:25:13,700
personally I think he isn't it but uh

582
00:25:17,810 --> 00:25:16,620
I'm sorry Lord I apologize I didn't say

583
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:17,820
that

584
00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:19,140
um Okay so

585
00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:21,059
they're leading a focused effort to

586
00:25:26,210 --> 00:25:22,500
better characterize understand and

587
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,220
attribute UAP with priority given to the

588
00:25:31,850 --> 00:25:28,799
reports by DOD and intelligence

589
00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:31,860
Community Personnel in or near areas of

590
00:25:38,269 --> 00:25:35,340
National Security importance well gosh

591
00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:38,279
there it's innumerable it's you can't

592
00:25:44,029 --> 00:25:41,460
count the places that are sensitive so

593
00:25:46,130 --> 00:25:44,039
the mind wanders you know what they

594
00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:46,140
really know about sensitive places like

595
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:49,740
Oak Ridge here in Tennessee Los Alamos

596
00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:53,520
Hanford uh other places like nuclear

597
00:25:59,049 --> 00:25:56,220
missile uh weapons

598
00:26:01,970 --> 00:25:59,059
silos as we all know

599
00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:01,980
that have been violated as far as going

600
00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:05,400
back into the 60s and 70s and there's

601
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,500
just so much in that

602
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:09,840
um that I think he's just what I what I

603
00:26:14,029 --> 00:26:12,480
what it sected here he said DOD fully

604
00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:14,039
appreciates the eagerness from many

605
00:26:18,830 --> 00:26:16,140
quarters especially here in Congress and

606
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:18,840
the American public to quickly resolve

607
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,320
UAP encountered across the globe well

608
00:26:27,049 --> 00:26:24,720
that's a huge

609
00:26:30,049 --> 00:26:27,059
that's sort of an all-encompassing thing

610
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:30,059
so he's basically saying it's not only

611
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:34,320
just yes it's it's it's a worldwide look

612
00:26:38,210 --> 00:26:36,120
um and then you'll see a contradictory

613
00:26:40,010 --> 00:26:38,220
statement here I think I highlighted it

614
00:26:42,830 --> 00:26:40,020
where they're kind of looking like from

615
00:26:45,649 --> 00:26:42,840
1996 to current day and I'm like what

616
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:45,659
aren't you looking around the world but

617
00:26:48,409 --> 00:26:46,559
uh

618
00:26:50,269 --> 00:26:48,419
let's go on to the interest interest of

619
00:26:51,769 --> 00:26:50,279
time here yeah I'll just uh pull up a

620
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,779
question

621
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:53,760
for Michael would Kirkpatrick have the

622
00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:55,440
requisite authorities on their title 10

623
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,960
to establish this framework for day data

624
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,000
collection could agencies decline to

625
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,640
provide him with their data I think he

626
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,559
mentioned he didn't have

627
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:07,200
I I it was I know this title 10 and

628
00:27:10,430 --> 00:27:09,000
title 50 and I don't understand the

629
00:27:12,529 --> 00:27:10,440
difference exactly between them and he

630
00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:12,539
mentioned one that he did not have the

631
00:27:15,970 --> 00:27:14,580
exact

632
00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:15,980
um requisition

633
00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:18,539
yeah so he's working on it if you look

634
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,740
down here

635
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,600
he's working on we will need to

636
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:23,760
prioritize collection

637
00:27:28,190 --> 00:27:25,740
and leverage authorities

638
00:27:30,830 --> 00:27:28,200
for monitoring all domains within the

639
00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:30,840
continental United States which I think

640
00:27:37,930 --> 00:27:35,640
is limiting but he's it's amazing to me

641
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:37,940
that he's

642
00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:41,039
addressing all of the little warts and

643
00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:44,340
bumps and little niche areas

644
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,340
um that things that have to get done to

645
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,200
that question that's what he's talking

646
00:27:54,289 --> 00:27:50,880
about here he's talking about leveraging

647
00:27:57,769 --> 00:27:54,299
authorities because authorities each of

648
00:28:01,970 --> 00:27:57,779
these agencies whether it's NSA CIA nro

649
00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:01,980
whoever they have a certain legislative

650
00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:04,440
they they have a certain Charter

651
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:06,900
that gives them Authority then there's

652
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:09,480
the interagency perspective of all of it

653
00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:12,960
where they they collaborate and work

654
00:28:19,010 --> 00:28:15,380
together and that's another set of

655
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,020
documentation and authorities and so

656
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:21,600
forth It's Complicated because then you

657
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:24,480
get into you know it you could say well

658
00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:26,640
it doesn't make sense if you say there

659
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:29,220
are little fiefdoms but there really are

660
00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:32,520
I've seen it in action you know there

661
00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:34,679
are jealousies there are there is uh

662
00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:37,020
there's budgetary things there are

663
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:40,020
budgetary things where one agency wants

664
00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:42,240
that chunk of billions but and they

665
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:43,380
don't want it to go over to the other

666
00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:46,020
agency and there's some infighting and

667
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,120
they end up working it out but

668
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:50,640
it's ultimately very very complicated

669
00:28:55,789 --> 00:28:52,799
when you hear Lou talk about who elizado

670
00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:55,799
talk about the Pentagon is a is a huge

671
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,200
organization there couldn't be a

672
00:29:02,930 --> 00:29:00,720
statement further from the truth

673
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:02,940
there's so many left hands not even

674
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:04,559
knowing what all these right hands are

675
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:07,140
doing it's not like you call it 800

676
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:10,799
number you go hey uh I need this done

677
00:29:15,529 --> 00:29:12,600
and everybody just goes and does it

678
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:15,539
right so anyway and and for folks

679
00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:16,559
listening

680
00:29:21,649 --> 00:29:19,260
when you read my transcript with Jay

681
00:29:25,010 --> 00:29:21,659
Stratton and Travis Taylor which I will

682
00:29:27,409 --> 00:29:25,020
have out soon you'll see

683
00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:27,419
how much progress they did make in the

684
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,980
UAP task force I know that's neither

685
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:31,200
here nor there because they're gone now

686
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,720
and that's now we have Arrow but he did

687
00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:35,520
have the right clearances to open the

688
00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:37,020
right door so it was very very

689
00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:38,460
impressive younger to read it and you're

690
00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:40,380
going to say this is amazing and then

691
00:29:42,889 --> 00:29:41,340
you realize well it's a little

692
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,899
depressing because we're taking a slight

693
00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:44,640
step back now but

694
00:29:49,850 --> 00:29:47,820
I digress one question here just quick

695
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,860
um crash retrieval Witnesses have full

696
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,600
opportunity to present to Congress have

697
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:54,000
they I know people have talked about it

698
00:29:57,470 --> 00:29:55,440
Nolan said

699
00:30:01,549 --> 00:29:57,480
topics that were discussed behind closed

700
00:30:03,529 --> 00:30:01,559
doors were crash retrieval and contact

701
00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:03,539
I don't you know I don't think Gary's

702
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:05,880
making that up so yes things are going

703
00:30:09,649 --> 00:30:07,500
on behind the scenes but we don't have

704
00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:09,659
any testimony yet hopefully we'll get

705
00:30:12,409 --> 00:30:10,860
that in the future there's really not

706
00:30:14,029 --> 00:30:12,419
much more to say

707
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,039
another thing

708
00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:15,840
the reason why a lot of people are so

709
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,700
antsy and disappointed by this is

710
00:30:20,930 --> 00:30:19,440
because leading up to the hearing I know

711
00:30:24,649 --> 00:30:20,940
you're not on Twitter all the time and

712
00:30:26,510 --> 00:30:24,659
where I am on 24 7. Gary Nolan Dr Gary

713
00:30:28,490 --> 00:30:26,520
Nolan said he thought by the end of the

714
00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:28,500
summer or the end of the year

715
00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:30,600
things are going to happen uh things are

716
00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:32,940
gonna make an impact with whistleblowers

717
00:30:37,730 --> 00:30:34,980
and then you have other people like

718
00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:37,740
Steve Bassett who's been calling for a

719
00:30:42,409 --> 00:30:39,720
disclosure imminently for the past 25

720
00:30:45,169 --> 00:30:42,419
years and but there's another guy who

721
00:30:46,669 --> 00:30:45,179
was it John Ramirez former CIA said

722
00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:46,679
we're going to have disclosure in a

723
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,260
matter of months not years so

724
00:30:53,570 --> 00:30:51,600
everybody's like so amped and then we

725
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:53,580
have this which this is a letdown when

726
00:30:58,610 --> 00:30:56,520
you compare it to disclosure and crash

727
00:31:00,590 --> 00:30:58,620
retrieval and bodies but once again

728
00:31:02,930 --> 00:31:00,600
there's a lot of good stuff in here and

729
00:31:06,289 --> 00:31:02,940
continue Michael I'm sorry

730
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,299
well to your point this what we're

731
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,159
seeing on screen here what we saw with

732
00:31:14,269 --> 00:31:11,279
Kirkpatrick's testimony is essentially

733
00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:14,279
the establishment of a department uh

734
00:31:19,250 --> 00:31:17,520
organization right and he said and he

735
00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:19,260
said hopefully one day we won't need an

736
00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:20,820
arrow all the Departments will be able

737
00:31:25,149 --> 00:31:22,200
to do exactly what we're talking about

738
00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:25,159
here it'll just be part of their mission

739
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:28,440
yeah he wasn't there to disclose things

740
00:31:33,470 --> 00:31:31,140
right he was there to explain about a

741
00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:33,480
department being stood up or what I

742
00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:35,820
would it's it's not a program office but

743
00:31:42,350 --> 00:31:38,480
like that's that's the world I come from

744
00:31:45,889 --> 00:31:42,360
every every unique say submarine system

745
00:31:48,409 --> 00:31:45,899
or ship type or satellite program

746
00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:48,419
whether it's it's an electro Optical

747
00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:50,940
satellite or it's a radar satellite all

748
00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:53,399
those have discrete program offices

749
00:31:59,570 --> 00:31:56,700
within some agency okay

750
00:32:03,789 --> 00:31:59,580
what I read here is it's at a department

751
00:32:06,289 --> 00:32:03,799
level in the Pentagon it's co

752
00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:06,299
gnizance if that's that's I just made up

753
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:09,299
a word between the dod and the

754
00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:11,940
intelligence Community but it it's it's

755
00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:14,460
a bit like him explaining how we have

756
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,220
set up this program office

757
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:20,159
and this is our job we understand what

758
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,620
you've asked us to do here's how we're

759
00:32:28,610 --> 00:32:24,720
going about doing it that's what he was

760
00:32:31,730 --> 00:32:28,620
saying uh throughout all of this okay

761
00:32:33,889 --> 00:32:31,740
um so I highlighted this and read that

762
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,899
arrow is the combination of Decades of

763
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:35,279
DOD intelligence community and

764
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,100
congressionally directed efforts really

765
00:32:42,889 --> 00:32:40,320
what congressionally directed efforts

766
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,899
over the decades are we aware of

767
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:44,640
I can name

768
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:48,000
on three fingers you know since the 50s

769
00:32:51,529 --> 00:32:49,320
or whatever

770
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:51,539
some Congressional inquiries but I don't

771
00:32:55,549 --> 00:32:54,120
think they really got anywhere uh so

772
00:32:58,970 --> 00:32:55,559
that's kind of interesting that he said

773
00:33:03,049 --> 00:32:58,980
it that way to resolve UAP encountered

774
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,059
first and foremost by U.S military and

775
00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:05,760
specifically Navy and Air Force Air

776
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:07,020
Force fights what about what about

777
00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:08,880
ground guides what about the Army what

778
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,120
about the Marines what about the police

779
00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:14,880
you know the mind wanders so that was

780
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,220
just kind of weird interesting

781
00:33:23,389 --> 00:33:20,880
intriguing I thought uh

782
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:23,399
and then he said uh we can't answer

783
00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:26,340
Decades of questions all at once

784
00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:28,380
I don't know what sort of historical

785
00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:30,899
research you know would they would they

786
00:33:36,409 --> 00:33:32,760
dare involve people like Dr Jacques

787
00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:36,419
valet and and his databases or the nids

788
00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:39,059
guys with Robert Bigelow would they

789
00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:40,860
would they dare bring in that data

790
00:33:47,210 --> 00:33:44,100
apparently at DIA because of Dia's

791
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:47,220
involvement with skin walker Ranch I

792
00:33:52,669 --> 00:33:49,620
believe this data there is a database

793
00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:52,679
somewhere that exists we know it it's

794
00:33:56,029 --> 00:33:54,419
the capella database the capella

795
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,039
database has all that data and

796
00:34:01,490 --> 00:33:58,559
supposedly supposedly they are using it

797
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:01,500
in the DIA I would assume I would hope

798
00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:08,270
I would hope I don't know but but he

799
00:34:13,129 --> 00:34:10,919
didn't mention it so and probably maybe

800
00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:13,139
not in an open Forum maybe he did in the

801
00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:15,419
closed Forum but he he does he does

802
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:17,159
point to you know things like the

803
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,399
nation's most advanced sensors and talks

804
00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:22,560
about assuming that they can collect the

805
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,780
data I think there's more to follow on

806
00:34:29,149 --> 00:34:27,359
that because you and I have talked a lot

807
00:34:33,070 --> 00:34:29,159
and I can't go into detail about it but

808
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:33,080
we our technical capabilities are

809
00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:36,540
Exquisite okay and the expression I

810
00:34:40,849 --> 00:34:39,060
always say is that people that kind of

811
00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:40,859
have that don't really trust the

812
00:34:46,070 --> 00:34:43,500
government well if you it's okay it's

813
00:34:48,530 --> 00:34:46,080
okay to complain about the IRS in my in

814
00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:48,540
my view uh or any other civilian

815
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,460
government agency but if people really

816
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:52,320
knew the caliber of the people that

817
00:34:58,970 --> 00:34:54,060
worked inside the intelligence community

818
00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:58,980
at places like nro CIA NSA DIA

819
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:01,859
Etc they would be vastly impressed with

820
00:35:07,790 --> 00:35:04,160
how their tax dollars are being spent

821
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,800
it's uh it's amazing so and by the way

822
00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:09,359
folks it's hard for me to get just

823
00:35:13,490 --> 00:35:11,160
interrupt all the time with questions so

824
00:35:14,930 --> 00:35:13,500
try to save your questions for the end

825
00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:14,940
and then we'll just go through them

826
00:35:17,870 --> 00:35:16,200
rapid fire

827
00:35:19,849 --> 00:35:17,880
yeah and I'm going to speed up because

828
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,859
this is already we're 35 minutes into it

829
00:35:22,609 --> 00:35:21,359
so we need we need to go a little faster

830
00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:22,619
in my view

831
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:23,700
um

832
00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:25,500
let's see here

833
00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:28,200
um and thank you for the donations folks

834
00:35:38,270 --> 00:35:35,930
so he does recognize that this in this

835
00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:38,280
next area here that I highlighted that

836
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:40,859
it's more than just the dod and the IC

837
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:43,740
uh it's it's basically partnering with

838
00:35:47,569 --> 00:35:45,839
industry and what he calls the

839
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:47,579
interagency so all the intelligence

840
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,260
communities and the dod organizations

841
00:35:55,790 --> 00:35:52,320
the commands like U.S Special Operations

842
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:55,800
Command North com European command he

843
00:36:00,589 --> 00:35:57,839
means everything by saying that and the

844
00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:00,599
scientific community and the public well

845
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:02,760
I would like to see

846
00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:05,160
at some point when they start having

847
00:36:10,910 --> 00:36:07,320
maybe like you know you get to a website

848
00:36:13,069 --> 00:36:10,920
where you can you can drop in a a video

849
00:36:15,470 --> 00:36:13,079
that you took because you had a sighting

850
00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:15,480
or you can get on the chat and you can

851
00:36:22,370 --> 00:36:19,260
ask a question we'll see about that yeah

852
00:36:24,410 --> 00:36:22,380
but he's sort of casting a wide net and

853
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:24,420
trying to be all-inclusive

854
00:36:29,329 --> 00:36:26,220
and he talks about the partnering here

855
00:36:31,130 --> 00:36:29,339
uh again he mentions interagency so he's

856
00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:31,140
got a broad view of how it's going to

857
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:33,660
work any idea how this would work with

858
00:36:39,290 --> 00:36:37,440
the the Biden inner agency UAP task

859
00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:39,300
force I mean it's like competing task

860
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:42,839
force yeah I have no idea I wasn't even

861
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:44,880
I heard about what you're talking about

862
00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:47,520
but I'm not keeping up with that I don't

863
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,740
know there's no news on it so yeah

864
00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:51,359
there's nothing to really keep up on

865
00:36:56,569 --> 00:36:53,940
yeah so

866
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,579
um he again he's saying all the right

867
00:37:01,010 --> 00:36:58,800
things right he's saying all the right

868
00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:01,020
things that said it wanted he's saying

869
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:02,520
all the right things that the public

870
00:37:06,130 --> 00:37:04,440
wanted right right here greater

871
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:06,140
objectivity and transparency

872
00:37:10,210 --> 00:37:09,359
transparency in the study of UAP

873
00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:10,220
um

874
00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:14,220
so again excellent speaker

875
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:16,859
very smart guy he's saying all the right

876
00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:19,140
things

877
00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:21,060
now he goes into here I don't want to

878
00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:22,619
spend much time on this about his very

879
00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:24,780
small percentage of reports uh display

880
00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:26,820
signatures that could not reasonably

881
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:30,300
described as anomalous yeah which we

882
00:37:33,470 --> 00:37:31,859
know it's always you know depending on

883
00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:33,480
where which source you look at five to

884
00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:35,820
ten percent of UFO reports are anomalous

885
00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:39,900
the rest are you know misidentifications

886
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:41,820
well it is then he says a large number

887
00:37:48,109 --> 00:37:44,880
of cases in our Holdings

888
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,119
remain technically unresolved so I'm

889
00:37:53,329 --> 00:37:51,119
assuming that probably correlates

890
00:37:57,230 --> 00:37:53,339
pretty closely

891
00:37:59,329 --> 00:37:57,240
this is just an assumption but with the

892
00:38:01,069 --> 00:37:59,339
old Blue Book cases right there's a

893
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:01,079
large there are a large number that they

894
00:38:06,050 --> 00:38:03,119
just don't know the answer for

895
00:38:08,270 --> 00:38:06,060
um but he says primarily due to a lack

896
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,280
of data associated with these cases

897
00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:10,560
and he's a he's a scientifically

898
00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:13,020
rigorous person which was very clear

899
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:15,420
from his testimony and he's basically

900
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:18,000
saying they're going to go pull out all

901
00:38:24,890 --> 00:38:20,760
the stops to try to use National sensors

902
00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:24,900
ground sensors undersea sensors uh

903
00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:28,260
Academia and whatever to try to get more

904
00:38:34,910 --> 00:38:32,760
data this is a way that you explain how

905
00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:34,920
thorough you're going to be because at

906
00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:37,320
some point he's going to have or his

907
00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:39,720
office is going to have to ask for more

908
00:38:46,849 --> 00:38:41,880
money because what they're talking about

909
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,859
doing is a huge task and is going to be

910
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:49,680
really expensive budget wise that's

911
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:51,900
that's my take on that

912
00:38:55,849 --> 00:38:53,880
and then he says I recognize that what

913
00:38:59,390 --> 00:38:55,859
I'm saying is unsatisfying

914
00:39:00,430 --> 00:38:59,400
these people with their cameras and they

915
00:39:02,750 --> 00:39:00,440
think they're seeing something

916
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,760
unexplainable it even mentions radar

917
00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:04,320
basically so he's saying even some of

918
00:39:08,030 --> 00:39:05,700
the folks in the military they'll say

919
00:39:09,650 --> 00:39:08,040
they'll take video or no get radar of

920
00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:09,660
something they think is inexplicable and

921
00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:10,920
it's not

922
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:12,420
it's interesting that he pointed that

923
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:13,920
out

924
00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:19,200
well again he I'm so impressed with the

925
00:39:25,069 --> 00:39:22,020
thoroughness of his sort of his thought

926
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:25,079
process now these types of people

927
00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:28,320
typically don't write their own speeches

928
00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:30,839
if you will they don't create their own

929
00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:33,540
slide decks it's done by a staff of

930
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:34,380
people

931
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:35,520
okay

932
00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:38,400
but the fact that a lot of this language

933
00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:40,980
that we're reading here it it runs the

934
00:39:47,230 --> 00:39:45,060
gamut it's both detailed it's expansive

935
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:47,240
it's thorough

936
00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:50,160
they put some serious time into his

937
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,220
presentation right it might be which is

938
00:39:58,010 --> 00:39:55,200
kind of impressive compared to what we

939
00:40:00,890 --> 00:39:58,020
got last time around right night and day

940
00:40:01,490 --> 00:40:00,900
yeah it is exactly

941
00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:01,500
um

942
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:04,020
so here's just more word salad about you

943
00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:05,760
know it's

944
00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:08,220
could be readily explainable and so on

945
00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:10,440
and so forth saying all the right things

946
00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:12,119
again

947
00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:14,339
um has to pass their level of scrutiny

948
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:15,780
well what is their level of scrutiny

949
00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:17,520
that's kind of an interesting topic to

950
00:40:22,490 --> 00:40:19,500
me uh

951
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:22,500
what do you want it to be it depends on

952
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:23,640
the audience

953
00:40:29,210 --> 00:40:26,160
they don't look at it that way though it

954
00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:29,220
is what is it right and how can we prove

955
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:31,260
what it is

956
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:33,720
what we see what we detect what we sense

957
00:40:41,390 --> 00:40:38,640
with our sensors or our eyeballs so

958
00:40:44,990 --> 00:40:41,400
his his scientific rigor or his

959
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,000
scientific background uh again pretty

960
00:40:49,069 --> 00:40:47,520
much impressed me and then then he gets

961
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:49,079
sent to this business about this high

962
00:40:52,270 --> 00:40:51,540
altitude Chinese balloon

963
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:52,280
um

964
00:40:57,770 --> 00:40:55,680
I that's all just sort of just a bunch

965
00:41:00,650 --> 00:40:57,780
of noise you know at the time when he

966
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:00,660
said he said I want to turn UAP into SCP

967
00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:02,460
somebody else's problem I'm like what

968
00:41:06,050 --> 00:41:04,320
and then somebody else said yo he

969
00:41:07,609 --> 00:41:06,060
doesn't want anything to do with this he

970
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,619
doesn't want anything to do with uip

971
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,359
this is not the right guy but then as

972
00:41:14,810 --> 00:41:11,520
you read more what he's basically saying

973
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:14,820
is my job is not to go after Chinese

974
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:17,839
balloons my job is to go after anomalous

975
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:20,640
anomalous objects that's my job I don't

976
00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:23,760
want to waste time on a balloon if it's

977
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:25,740
a balloon and Jade Strat said the same

978
00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:27,180
thing if they figured it out it was

979
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,160
something that was not anomalous they

980
00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:30,960
passed it on to the right you know

981
00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:32,940
Department it that's your job that's not

982
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:34,440
my job so it wasn't really a negative

983
00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:38,760
thing for him to say sep just no no I

984
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,579
want to focus on anomalous activity what

985
00:41:47,810 --> 00:41:43,920
he's essentially doing let's just take

986
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:47,820
an example of uh oh let's say you're

987
00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:51,780
over in Iraq uh eight years ago ten

988
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,420
years ago and and something happens the

989
00:41:59,210 --> 00:41:56,640
the adversary the guys you know the

990
00:42:01,609 --> 00:41:59,220
jihadis or whatever they they blow up

991
00:42:03,410 --> 00:42:01,619
one of their vehicles and you don't know

992
00:42:05,810 --> 00:42:03,420
how they did it you didn't see it coming

993
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,820
killed a couple of guys

994
00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:07,680
and you're trying to figure out what

995
00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:08,820
happened

996
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:12,119
so you breathe you're a Marvel over

997
00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:13,200
there you're muffled when you're over

998
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,280
there

999
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:16,079
I didn't think you could see me I

1000
00:42:19,569 --> 00:42:17,400
thought you could only see the screen of

1001
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:19,579
the uh

1002
00:42:24,410 --> 00:42:21,660
oh I'm sorry

1003
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:24,420
you were like where is he going

1004
00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:26,820
it's like the UFO outside the window and

1005
00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:28,680
Michael is looking at it every five

1006
00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:31,140
minutes no I that's what I do when I'm

1007
00:42:37,609 --> 00:42:34,680
on my my teleconferences I could put us

1008
00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:37,619
off I don't know that's not right I

1009
00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:39,000
wasn't aware I thought only the screen

1010
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:40,380
was showing

1011
00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:43,200
um so anyway they would naturally try to

1012
00:42:47,390 --> 00:42:45,180
find out the answers and they would they

1013
00:42:50,089 --> 00:42:47,400
would take what they know forensically

1014
00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:50,099
and they would Farm it out and try to

1015
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:51,079
find

1016
00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:55,440
whose problem is this really right who

1017
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,060
can figure this out who has the

1018
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,040
expertise that's what he means by

1019
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,920
somebody else's problem uh it's like

1020
00:43:05,809 --> 00:43:03,599
where do we take

1021
00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:05,819
what we've collected

1022
00:43:12,589 --> 00:43:10,140
and how do we determine to give it to

1023
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,599
the right sort of cognizant group

1024
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,119
you follow me yeah or any agents yeah

1025
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:18,000
okay so that's what that basically means

1026
00:43:21,230 --> 00:43:19,260
um

1027
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:21,240
and then he says here that we have

1028
00:43:26,809 --> 00:43:23,940
tremendous capabilities to deal with

1029
00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:26,819
those encountered objects now that's a

1030
00:43:31,069 --> 00:43:28,920
kind of a generic statement but I will

1031
00:43:32,990 --> 00:43:31,079
agree with him that the capabilities are

1032
00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:33,000
tremendous we will never know the

1033
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:34,500
details about that and we shouldn't know

1034
00:43:39,530 --> 00:43:36,540
right but I'll just tell you I don't

1035
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:39,540
like this expression somebody used it a

1036
00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:42,480
decade ago it was kind of in Vogue but

1037
00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:44,520
the capabilities that we have are

1038
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:45,900
eye-watering

1039
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:48,180
what does that really mean it means that

1040
00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:49,680
they're extraordinary

1041
00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:52,500
that's what that really means

1042
00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:54,180
um so anyway

1043
00:43:59,089 --> 00:43:56,760
he's he's admitting here that that his

1044
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,099
office exists to help DOD intelligence

1045
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:01,920
and interagency resolve all these cases

1046
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,839
he's again just saying all the right

1047
00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:05,280
words

1048
00:44:10,430 --> 00:44:07,980
um validating analysis and underlying

1049
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:10,440
theories peer reviewing things the

1050
00:44:14,809 --> 00:44:12,240
results within the government and

1051
00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:14,819
Industry Partners again he's saying all

1052
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:17,160
the right things okay let me play let me

1053
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,220
play the red part because I do have that

1054
00:44:25,550 --> 00:44:22,560
tell me if you can't if you can hear it

1055
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,560
reaching any conclusions I could hear I

1056
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:27,119
should also State clearly for the record

1057
00:44:31,609 --> 00:44:29,760
that in our research Arrow has found no

1058
00:44:33,770 --> 00:44:31,619
credible evidence thus far of

1059
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:33,780
extraterrestrial activity off-world

1060
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,480
technology or objects that defy the

1061
00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:38,160
known laws of physics

1062
00:44:43,069 --> 00:44:40,740
in the event sufficient scientific data

1063
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,079
were ever attained that a UAP

1064
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,119
encountered can only be explained by

1065
00:44:49,370 --> 00:44:47,520
extraterrestrial origin we are committed

1066
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:49,380
to working with our interagency partners

1067
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:52,079
at Nasa to appropriately inform U.S

1068
00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:54,540
government's leadership of its findings

1069
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:57,000
for those few cases that have leaked to

1070
00:45:01,250 --> 00:44:58,800
the public previously and subsequently

1071
00:45:02,930 --> 00:45:01,260
commented on by the U.S government I

1072
00:45:05,089 --> 00:45:02,940
encourage those who hold alternative

1073
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:05,099
theories or views to submit to research

1074
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,260
to Credible peer-reviewed scientific

1075
00:45:10,910 --> 00:45:09,839
journals arrow is working very hard to

1076
00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:10,920
do the same

1077
00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:13,980
that is how science works not by blog or

1078
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:16,200
social media

1079
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,760
so

1080
00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:19,920
I don't really know

1081
00:45:25,069 --> 00:45:23,220
what evidence of extraterrestrial craft

1082
00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:25,079
would look like I don't know how you

1083
00:45:29,150 --> 00:45:27,540
would prove that but

1084
00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:29,160
um I know that upset a lot of people and

1085
00:45:33,770 --> 00:45:31,260
then the Skeptics and debunkers are like

1086
00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:33,780
see game over there's nothing to see

1087
00:45:37,370 --> 00:45:34,980
here

1088
00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:37,380
yeah but if if he did have

1089
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:40,200
evidence of extraterrestrial activity

1090
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:43,920
and off-world Technology would he in

1091
00:45:49,130 --> 00:45:45,660
that particular venue

1092
00:45:51,470 --> 00:45:49,140
would he have stated such there's no way

1093
00:45:52,430 --> 00:45:51,480
no he probably would not state but would

1094
00:46:04,309 --> 00:45:52,440
he

1095
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:04,319
leap

1096
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:07,280
in uh information

1097
00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:10,079
awareness by the public

1098
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,839
um why would he do that in that Forum

1099
00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:14,880
it's not his place

1100
00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:17,700
it's his place to brief Congress and the

1101
00:46:21,950 --> 00:46:19,020
Senate

1102
00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:21,960
open Forum close Forum but I don't think

1103
00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:25,500
it's his role to tell us hey ladies and

1104
00:46:29,650 --> 00:46:27,780
gentlemen my fellow Americans we have

1105
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:29,660
evidence of off-world Technology

1106
00:46:34,250 --> 00:46:32,400
extraterrestrials are among us that's

1107
00:46:36,109 --> 00:46:34,260
not his role

1108
00:46:38,089 --> 00:46:36,119
then why even bring it up though that's

1109
00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:38,099
why I'm like why even say that then just

1110
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,540
don't say it if you're gonna if you're

1111
00:46:42,589 --> 00:46:41,280
gonna say we don't have evidence when

1112
00:46:44,210 --> 00:46:42,599
they might I mean I don't know if he

1113
00:46:45,710 --> 00:46:44,220
even has that access to that evidence

1114
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:45,720
first of all he I don't think he has

1115
00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:48,000
crash retrieval evidence and like I said

1116
00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:49,740
how would you even prove something of

1117
00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:51,300
extraterrestrial I mean you could say

1118
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,640
it's coming from deep space you know

1119
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,440
that's the most you could say you can't

1120
00:46:58,730 --> 00:46:56,880
say unless you're tracking it from

1121
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,740
another planet you can't say it's from

1122
00:47:02,089 --> 00:47:00,480
another planet you could say they don't

1123
00:47:04,010 --> 00:47:02,099
look like humans if we have the craft

1124
00:47:05,870 --> 00:47:04,020
you could say we probably didn't build

1125
00:47:07,550 --> 00:47:05,880
this but I I'm just saying how the heck

1126
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:07,560
would we even get to that point we're

1127
00:47:15,790 --> 00:47:11,880
saying yep it's from planet ZR2 I don't

1128
00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:17,990
we're on two different things here as

1129
00:47:23,930 --> 00:47:20,460
far as what Kirkpatrick says but

1130
00:47:27,290 --> 00:47:23,940
um I just he's sticking strictly to the

1131
00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:27,300
facts he's not doing any speculation

1132
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,460
um and I wouldn't expect him to

1133
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,200
to expect you think he might have said

1134
00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:32,880
differently in the closed session about

1135
00:47:37,309 --> 00:47:34,980
this

1136
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:37,319
we can't know that yeah I would think

1137
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:38,400
not

1138
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,420
I have an idea all right continue

1139
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:45,119
please well so this is just more of the

1140
00:47:50,329 --> 00:47:48,240
same uh then he again saying all the

1141
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:50,339
right things committed to transparency

1142
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:54,240
accountability and sharing as much

1143
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,839
with the public as we can right that's

1144
00:48:00,890 --> 00:47:59,040
uh

1145
00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:00,900
consistent with Our obligation to

1146
00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:03,420
protect intelligent sources and methods

1147
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:07,140
all this is is if I were you know if if

1148
00:48:11,569 --> 00:48:09,119
I had to go do this if I had to go to

1149
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:11,579
the hill and sit down and and talk about

1150
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,880
this stuff and I had a staff this is how

1151
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,040
I would ask it to be written up then I'd

1152
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,680
spend a day or two going over it because

1153
00:48:24,829 --> 00:48:22,079
he he was absolutely he was he was

1154
00:48:28,490 --> 00:48:24,839
bulletproof uh I never heard him one

1155
00:48:29,329 --> 00:48:28,500
time make a misstatement maybe I missed

1156
00:48:32,030 --> 00:48:29,339
it

1157
00:48:33,230 --> 00:48:32,040
um but he was absolutely polished

1158
00:48:37,309 --> 00:48:33,240
perfect

1159
00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:37,319
uh as if he wrote the entire briefing

1160
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:38,819
but that's not the way it works because

1161
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:40,200
those kinds of people don't have the

1162
00:48:42,530 --> 00:48:41,520
time to do it they have people do it for

1163
00:48:44,750 --> 00:48:42,540
them

1164
00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:44,760
um but I thought I was I was impressed I

1165
00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:46,740
was impressed he was very professional

1166
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,619
very very professional yeah I'd never

1167
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:51,839
seen them speak I I only heard I'd only

1168
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:54,720
heard you know negative mostly negative

1169
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:56,280
things about him so it was actually nice

1170
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:59,520
to hear directly from him yeah now I'm

1171
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:00,839
not going to go into because people

1172
00:49:04,849 --> 00:49:02,880
could go to your your site and see this

1173
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:04,859
stuff but one thing that did kind of

1174
00:49:10,130 --> 00:49:07,680
disappoint me is when he showed this

1175
00:49:11,809 --> 00:49:10,140
chart or maybe you put these these I'm

1176
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,819
just I'm just I pulled whatever was on

1177
00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:13,440
the chart I put in text so it's a little

1178
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,859
easier to read so yeah you know what

1179
00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:18,720
would it say if it how would this look

1180
00:49:29,450 --> 00:49:23,640
if you were like 1945 to 2023 right

1181
00:49:30,290 --> 00:49:29,460
or from from 11 A.D to 2023 it would be

1182
00:49:31,970 --> 00:49:30,300
uh

1183
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:31,980
you know because there's been evidence

1184
00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:34,140
of stuff going on and most of them show

1185
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,420
up where we fly which makes sense sensor

1186
00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:38,880
bias same type of thing they may be

1187
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:42,119
everywhere but you know but you know

1188
00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:43,740
that's not so so I'm not really going to

1189
00:49:46,430 --> 00:49:45,060
go through these the shapes were good it

1190
00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:46,440
was nice to see the shapes in there it's

1191
00:49:50,089 --> 00:49:48,300
like all right this is you know it's the

1192
00:49:51,950 --> 00:49:50,099
information that was shapes were blacked

1193
00:49:53,530 --> 00:49:51,960
out on some of the reports we saw

1194
00:49:57,290 --> 00:49:53,540
yeah

1195
00:49:59,450 --> 00:49:57,300
one of the things that interests me in

1196
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,460
this whole discussion about well the

1197
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:01,920
native seeing them now more often quite

1198
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:05,040
frequently maybe some maybe daily we

1199
00:50:08,210 --> 00:50:06,480
don't know as much about what the Air

1200
00:50:11,450 --> 00:50:08,220
Force is saying but we do know their

1201
00:50:14,410 --> 00:50:11,460
interest in our nuclear assets aircraft

1202
00:50:16,910 --> 00:50:14,420
carriers nuclear power plants nuclear

1203
00:50:18,730 --> 00:50:16,920
manufacturing facilities Los Alamos you

1204
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:18,740
name it

1205
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:22,020
where it seems that they're harder to

1206
00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:23,220
detect

1207
00:50:28,370 --> 00:50:25,800
but you can with the right sensors but

1208
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:28,380
if you go back if you go to Paul Hill's

1209
00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:31,500
book or just go back over the Decades of

1210
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:34,680
reported UFO encounters experiences

1211
00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:37,140
sightings whatever you want to call it

1212
00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:40,200
you didn't have to have you know the

1213
00:50:44,990 --> 00:50:41,940
most advanced Radars back in those days

1214
00:50:48,290 --> 00:50:45,000
these things were apparently according

1215
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:48,300
to the reports much more more overt much

1216
00:50:54,109 --> 00:50:51,000
more sort of in your face much more

1217
00:50:56,809 --> 00:50:54,119
visible you know if you talk about Paul

1218
00:50:59,210 --> 00:50:56,819
Hill he and a colleague were in Norfolk

1219
00:51:02,030 --> 00:50:59,220
Virginia one afternoon at a traffic

1220
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:02,040
light and they looked out over Norfolk

1221
00:51:07,370 --> 00:51:05,040
Bay and there was this enormous pencil

1222
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:07,380
green giant pencil shaped thing that was

1223
00:51:12,589 --> 00:51:09,240
like a half mile long

1224
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:12,599
uh it sort of pointed on one end and

1225
00:51:16,370 --> 00:51:14,880
blunt on the back end and it was just

1226
00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:16,380
kind of hovering there

1227
00:51:20,089 --> 00:51:18,839
and everybody the traffic stopped

1228
00:51:23,870 --> 00:51:20,099
everybody was looking at this thing

1229
00:51:25,010 --> 00:51:23,880
again this is a NASA scientist observing

1230
00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:25,020
this

1231
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:28,380
and and then it just suddenly shot off

1232
00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:31,140
over the bay out over the ocean and was

1233
00:51:34,370 --> 00:51:32,280
gone

1234
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,380
and of course all this all the other

1235
00:51:38,569 --> 00:51:36,720
reported Encounters of the of discs and

1236
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,579
whatever else triangles like the one I

1237
00:51:43,069 --> 00:51:40,079
saw

1238
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:43,079
that just appear and they're there yet

1239
00:51:47,630 --> 00:51:45,240
these Navy and Air Force these Navy

1240
00:51:50,569 --> 00:51:47,640
accounts are things

1241
00:51:54,109 --> 00:51:50,579
much different these things are they're

1242
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:54,119
much more uh elusive they're harder to

1243
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:56,220
see they'll see them on their on their

1244
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,800
aircraft radar they'll get they'll

1245
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:00,480
Vector in towards it

1246
00:52:03,950 --> 00:52:02,160
and then they'll have a lot of

1247
00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:03,960
difficulty if if not even being able to

1248
00:52:07,549 --> 00:52:05,700
see it at all visually

1249
00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:07,559
but they can see it on their sensors

1250
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:10,140
they can see it you know with radar they

1251
00:52:15,170 --> 00:52:12,900
can see it with infrared detectors

1252
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,180
so it's sort of a different thing going

1253
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:17,280
on these days it's it seems you don't

1254
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:18,720
have

1255
00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:23,760
dramatic sightings for these these large

1256
00:52:29,210 --> 00:52:25,260
you know like the overflight of

1257
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,220
Washington DC in 1952 uh two consecutive

1258
00:52:34,370 --> 00:52:31,680
weekends you don't you don't have that

1259
00:52:36,049 --> 00:52:34,380
you don't have these giant pencil shaped

1260
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:36,059
things showing up and you know zooming

1261
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:37,680
on it's like they're trying to be a

1262
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,900
little more I mean are these

1263
00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:42,000
I I don't even go there because I don't

1264
00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:43,500
like speculating about this kind of

1265
00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:46,260
stuff uh we all wonder why certain

1266
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:48,300
things yeah things change you have the

1267
00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:50,940
last when was the last major sighting I

1268
00:52:57,650 --> 00:52:53,940
mean Phoenix 97 I mean there was one in

1269
00:53:00,829 --> 00:52:57,660
2000 over Illinois in Missouri but

1270
00:53:03,950 --> 00:53:00,839
yeah like that since then yeah it's it's

1271
00:53:06,530 --> 00:53:03,960
mostly now these orbs and whatever from

1272
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:06,540
what I understand but uh yeah it's just

1273
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:09,359
an interesting change in the in the

1274
00:53:15,290 --> 00:53:12,540
dramaticism of you know how these things

1275
00:53:16,730 --> 00:53:15,300
show up uh it's like they're trying to

1276
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,740
be more careful or maybe they're maybe

1277
00:53:20,569 --> 00:53:18,720
they're like okay we've been there done

1278
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:20,579
that we'll just send our probes I have

1279
00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:22,319
no idea I'm just throwing stuff out

1280
00:53:25,250 --> 00:53:23,819
there yeah good point there was 2008

1281
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:25,260
Stephenville which was a really good

1282
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,160
case

1283
00:53:29,809 --> 00:53:28,079
um well yeah that's an epic one yeah

1284
00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:29,819
yeah

1285
00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:30,540
um

1286
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,220
so here's the last thing I think I

1287
00:53:36,530 --> 00:53:34,559
highlighted here that we're

1288
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:36,540
how are we going to get more data he

1289
00:53:40,910 --> 00:53:39,240
asks he says we're going to work with

1290
00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:40,920
the joint staff

1291
00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:43,020
to issue guidance to all the services

1292
00:53:49,730 --> 00:53:45,180
and commands now

1293
00:53:52,250 --> 00:53:49,740
that to me is enormously impressive The

1294
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:52,260
Joint staff means The Joint Chiefs of

1295
00:53:55,790 --> 00:53:53,520
Staff

1296
00:53:58,490 --> 00:53:55,800
that is if you don't know what it is

1297
00:54:00,109 --> 00:53:58,500
folks go look it up Google it figure out

1298
00:54:02,450 --> 00:54:00,119
who they are how important they are

1299
00:54:04,670 --> 00:54:02,460
these are the highest ranking military

1300
00:54:07,569 --> 00:54:04,680
people in the land

1301
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:07,579
they have cognizance over intelligence

1302
00:54:14,030 --> 00:54:09,920
uh Battlefield

1303
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:14,040
matters uh industry you know how do we

1304
00:54:19,069 --> 00:54:16,079
build our battleships how do we how do

1305
00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:19,079
we create intelligence operations it's

1306
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:22,980
their purview is enormous the fact that

1307
00:54:26,809 --> 00:54:25,440
he's talking about integrating with the

1308
00:54:29,809 --> 00:54:26,819
joint staff

1309
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,819
I was I was mildly impressed with that

1310
00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:31,680
to say the least

1311
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,000
um

1312
00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:35,040
so like part of his part of his

1313
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:37,020
presentation was

1314
00:54:39,950 --> 00:54:38,760
saying all the right things that you

1315
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:39,960
would say if you were head of an

1316
00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:42,000
organization like that and been called

1317
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,040
before Senate to report

1318
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:46,559
but the thoroughness with which they're

1319
00:54:51,770 --> 00:54:49,200
going about it kind of reflects back to

1320
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,780
what Chris Mellon said when he talked

1321
00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:53,760
about on his blog site

1322
00:54:59,569 --> 00:54:56,520
as how how you would organize such an

1323
00:55:04,069 --> 00:54:59,579
agency or an organization like this

1324
00:55:05,089 --> 00:55:04,079
uh and what we're seeing in in words in

1325
00:55:07,549 --> 00:55:05,099
Words

1326
00:55:11,390 --> 00:55:07,559
is that that has actually happened

1327
00:55:13,790 --> 00:55:11,400
and it's still evolving so you know I

1328
00:55:15,470 --> 00:55:13,800
don't consider myself a naive person

1329
00:55:17,809 --> 00:55:15,480
but

1330
00:55:21,890 --> 00:55:17,819
I I do feel

1331
00:55:24,109 --> 00:55:21,900
pretty pretty confident that a he was

1332
00:55:26,089 --> 00:55:24,119
the right guy to have been leading this

1333
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:26,099
organization up to now regardless of how

1334
00:55:28,490 --> 00:55:27,119
long he stays there because he's

1335
00:55:32,530 --> 00:55:28,500
probably going to retire as soon as I

1336
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,730
he'll be gone within a year I don't know

1337
00:55:38,510 --> 00:55:36,480
if it's retirement or something else I

1338
00:55:41,089 --> 00:55:38,520
don't know well these people don't stay

1339
00:55:44,270 --> 00:55:41,099
they wherever they are wherever I've

1340
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:44,280
been the leaders it's it's in their

1341
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,040
interest to keep moving up and onward

1342
00:55:52,670 --> 00:55:49,680
right they're furthering their career or

1343
00:55:55,549 --> 00:55:52,680
in his case he may be at retirement

1344
00:55:58,790 --> 00:55:55,559
right he's undoubtedly he's he's not

1345
00:56:01,549 --> 00:55:58,800
he's not a gs-15 he's the next level up

1346
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,559
which is I'm assuming which is senior

1347
00:56:05,210 --> 00:56:03,839
executive service now you can go Google

1348
00:56:07,549 --> 00:56:05,220
that and find out how much they make

1349
00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:07,559
their benefits and all that is spent are

1350
00:56:11,210 --> 00:56:08,700
fantastic

1351
00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:11,220
so he he he's he's obviously worked hard

1352
00:56:17,329 --> 00:56:14,339
to get where he is uh so the end result

1353
00:56:20,089 --> 00:56:17,339
of all of this is I was impressed with

1354
00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:20,099
Kirkpatrick and uh it'll be interesting

1355
00:56:23,809 --> 00:56:22,740
to see what they how they report out the

1356
00:56:28,130 --> 00:56:23,819
next time

1357
00:56:33,950 --> 00:56:32,270
one of the things I mean Kirk gillibrand

1358
00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:33,960
has been been one of the four in the

1359
00:56:37,490 --> 00:56:35,460
Forefront of this with Rubio and other

1360
00:56:40,130 --> 00:56:37,500
folks Gallego and

1361
00:56:41,809 --> 00:56:40,140
Gallagher and right off her right off

1362
00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:41,819
the bat she said you know because we're

1363
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,500
wondering she was talking about balloons

1364
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:44,880
in some of her interviews and seemed

1365
00:56:48,170 --> 00:56:46,380
like she was focusing on drones and

1366
00:56:49,790 --> 00:56:48,180
balloons but she said in her opening

1367
00:56:53,329 --> 00:56:49,800
statement she's like we don't know where

1368
00:56:54,890 --> 00:56:53,339
UAP come from who made them or how they

1369
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:54,900
operate that's basically you know that's

1370
00:57:00,290 --> 00:56:58,319
it basic stuff important stuff

1371
00:57:01,549 --> 00:57:00,300
um so it's nice to see and yeah like I

1372
00:57:03,049 --> 00:57:01,559
said it was disappointing to see three

1373
00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:03,059
senators and I know they had staffers

1374
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,140
but

1375
00:57:07,790 --> 00:57:06,240
I know more they said more where

1376
00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:07,800
somebody found out more were in the

1377
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,660
classified briefing

1378
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:12,720
um and Kirkpatrick said we are working

1379
00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:15,599
with industry Academia and the

1380
00:57:20,450 --> 00:57:18,180
scientific Community who why can't we

1381
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:20,460
know that Michael it's like if they're

1382
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,740
working with industry right now you know

1383
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:24,480
in the academic world and the scientific

1384
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:26,160
Community it's like who are you working

1385
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,599
with I don't understand why that's

1386
00:57:30,410 --> 00:57:29,040
secret

1387
00:57:32,089 --> 00:57:30,420
um I know some don't want to be

1388
00:57:34,490 --> 00:57:32,099
connected to UFOs and that may be the

1389
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,500
reason and if that's the case okay I

1390
00:57:37,490 --> 00:57:36,000
understand it as long as they're helping

1391
00:57:39,530 --> 00:57:37,500
and they're trying to help solve this

1392
00:57:41,390 --> 00:57:39,540
problem

1393
00:57:44,990 --> 00:57:41,400
well the only thing I can tell you about

1394
00:57:47,569 --> 00:57:45,000
that is that business relationships in

1395
00:57:51,170 --> 00:57:47,579
in this world or that world

1396
00:57:52,490 --> 00:57:51,180
are private and let me give you an

1397
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:52,500
example

1398
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,359
let's say

1399
00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:56,400
and you don't often see this

1400
00:57:59,870 --> 00:57:58,079
but let's say

1401
00:58:01,970 --> 00:57:59,880
and I can only have I have to stick to

1402
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:01,980
my own domain so let's say that the

1403
00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:04,400
government needs a new satellite

1404
00:58:09,770 --> 00:58:07,140
and they're going to go

1405
00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:09,780
get a major defense contractor you know

1406
00:58:16,370 --> 00:58:13,220
one of the Boeing Lockheed Raytheon

1407
00:58:20,089 --> 00:58:16,380
whoever Northrop Grumman to build it

1408
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:20,099
well no whoever you choose whoever wins

1409
00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:23,520
the award to go build that that system

1410
00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:25,319
they're not going to do it on their own

1411
00:58:31,609 --> 00:58:28,680
they're going to have dozens to hundreds

1412
00:58:34,670 --> 00:58:31,619
of smaller subcontracting companies or

1413
00:58:36,530 --> 00:58:34,680
suppliers helping them build all the

1414
00:58:38,530 --> 00:58:36,540
little parts and gadgets that end up

1415
00:58:41,569 --> 00:58:38,540
making the whole the whole thing right

1416
00:58:43,789 --> 00:58:41,579
but the prime contractor will be

1417
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:43,799
responsible for that but there's just no

1418
00:58:47,870 --> 00:58:46,559
way in hell you're gonna know on the

1419
00:58:50,329 --> 00:58:47,880
outside

1420
00:58:53,569 --> 00:58:50,339
who all of those suppliers are who all

1421
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:53,579
those business business partners is what

1422
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:54,720
they call themselves sometimes in

1423
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:56,220
contracts

1424
00:59:01,490 --> 00:58:58,319
between one another you're not going to

1425
00:59:02,990 --> 00:59:01,500
know who all those other entities are so

1426
00:59:06,410 --> 00:59:03,000
when they talk about industry and

1427
00:59:09,069 --> 00:59:06,420
Academia and sharing information uh in

1428
00:59:13,069 --> 00:59:11,569
how are we going to know that they're

1429
00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:13,079
not going to advertise that

1430
00:59:18,349 --> 00:59:15,780
so it's just a thing you just kind of

1431
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:18,359
have to accept it question for you you

1432
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,640
have any thoughts on the Alaska

1433
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,280
that horse object shoot down you know on

1434
00:59:27,049 --> 00:59:25,200
the objects we shot down does anything

1435
00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:27,059
stand out to you about how odd it was

1436
00:59:30,349 --> 00:59:28,980
that that event was handled how it was

1437
00:59:32,690 --> 00:59:30,359
handled from an Intel public

1438
00:59:34,490 --> 00:59:32,700
Communications standpoint

1439
00:59:38,089 --> 00:59:34,500
my only

1440
00:59:41,150 --> 00:59:38,099
curiosity main point of curiosity is if

1441
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:41,160
it was so benign and they and they

1442
00:59:43,970 --> 00:59:42,720
finally got tired of this stuff floating

1443
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:43,980
over the country and they finally

1444
00:59:48,349 --> 00:59:46,079
started scrambling Fighters and finally

1445
00:59:50,270 --> 00:59:48,359
started shooting them down and they land

1446
00:59:52,130 --> 00:59:50,280
somewhere

1447
00:59:54,410 --> 00:59:52,140
if they found it and if they landed in

1448
00:59:55,789 --> 00:59:54,420
in the ocean I can understand not being

1449
00:59:57,950 --> 00:59:55,799
able to find it

1450
01:00:01,849 --> 00:59:57,960
I can even understand not being able to

1451
01:00:04,250 --> 01:00:01,859
find it across the vastness of Canada

1452
01:00:06,289 --> 01:00:04,260
um but if they did find something then

1453
01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:06,299
what's the big deal about letting us

1454
01:00:10,970 --> 01:00:07,980
know

1455
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:10,980
um unless it was a Chinese

1456
01:00:15,170 --> 01:00:13,440
payload that you know once you pop the

1457
01:00:17,150 --> 01:00:15,180
balloon it falls to the ground and now

1458
01:00:18,589 --> 01:00:17,160
they're still studying it trying to

1459
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:18,599
figure out what it could have collected

1460
01:00:22,970 --> 01:00:21,119
how much damage you're doing a damage

1461
01:00:26,030 --> 01:00:22,980
assessment thing like well it could have

1462
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:26,040
collected XYZ so oh crap what were we

1463
01:00:29,569 --> 01:00:28,079
doing while it was okay so we could go

1464
01:00:32,210 --> 01:00:29,579
back and do the after action and figure

1465
01:00:33,650 --> 01:00:32,220
all that out maybe there's they're still

1466
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,660
doing that

1467
01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:35,760
otherwise I don't know what the big deal

1468
01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:39,599
is but I assume it's it's based on

1469
01:00:43,549 --> 01:00:41,760
probably ongoing investigation that we

1470
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,559
don't know anything further that's my

1471
01:00:47,630 --> 01:00:45,839
assumption folks if you had questions

1472
01:00:49,730 --> 01:00:47,640
earlier I missed or you have questions

1473
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:49,740
now do it now

1474
01:00:52,430 --> 01:00:51,359
um I don't know if you saw the story in

1475
01:00:55,609 --> 01:00:52,440
the news

1476
01:00:56,990 --> 01:00:55,619
Michael all these folks from Congress

1477
01:00:59,210 --> 01:00:57,000
Intel committee they went to

1478
01:01:00,770 --> 01:00:59,220
Wright-Patterson for a briefing I know

1479
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:00,780
everybody jumped to a conclusion that it

1480
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:02,040
might be oh they're going to show them

1481
01:01:07,130 --> 01:01:04,200
the craft but I I don't think that's

1482
01:01:09,770 --> 01:01:07,140
what it was about it it certainly didn't

1483
01:01:12,589 --> 01:01:09,780
say anything about what it was about

1484
01:01:14,930 --> 01:01:12,599
other than what they were there for

1485
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:14,940
but I don't recall

1486
01:01:18,890 --> 01:01:17,520
is this you've been doing this a lot

1487
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:18,900
longer than me

1488
01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:22,319
do you ever recall this these this

1489
01:01:25,789 --> 01:01:24,299
caliber of people

1490
01:01:28,490 --> 01:01:25,799
announcing that they've gone to

1491
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:28,500
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base for a

1492
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,640
briefing

1493
01:01:34,190 --> 01:01:31,920
I I don't recall that and why is that

1494
01:01:37,130 --> 01:01:34,200
important so if you think about going

1495
01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:37,140
back to what they're telling us

1496
01:01:41,089 --> 01:01:39,119
in the in the news in the news sphere

1497
01:01:43,730 --> 01:01:41,099
the information sphere

1498
01:01:45,589 --> 01:01:43,740
and why they're telling us and what they

1499
01:01:46,970 --> 01:01:45,599
want us to believe why did they even

1500
01:01:49,010 --> 01:01:46,980
have to mention that why was that

1501
01:01:50,930 --> 01:01:49,020
important in any way

1502
01:01:52,970 --> 01:01:50,940
because I have never

1503
01:01:55,490 --> 01:01:52,980
and I don't follow that stuff that

1504
01:01:57,289 --> 01:01:55,500
closely but I mean why would they have

1505
01:01:59,690 --> 01:01:57,299
to go to write Patterson Air Force Base

1506
01:02:03,490 --> 01:01:59,700
for this discussion that they had

1507
01:02:08,030 --> 01:02:05,690
and they said ladies and gentlemen have

1508
01:02:09,890 --> 01:02:08,040
you ever heard of the Blue Room well now

1509
01:02:12,010 --> 01:02:09,900
you're gonna see it and the blue room is

1510
01:02:14,329 --> 01:02:12,020
supposedly where Curtis LeMay told

1511
01:02:17,329 --> 01:02:14,339
Congressman Mary Goldwater you know it's

1512
01:02:19,069 --> 01:02:17,339
like don't ever mention that again right

1513
01:02:22,490 --> 01:02:19,079
trying to get access trying to

1514
01:02:25,069 --> 01:02:22,500
supposedly see crashed uh saucers or

1515
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,079
whatever is in there but if you know you

1516
01:02:29,930 --> 01:02:27,599
hear John Ramirez who's former CIA who

1517
01:02:31,069 --> 01:02:29,940
Jim semivan has you know he said he's a

1518
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:31,079
really great guy you should listen to

1519
01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:32,880
him and he's saying we're gonna have

1520
01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:34,920
disclosure in a matter of months and

1521
01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:36,660
then you see that story of you can't

1522
01:02:40,370 --> 01:02:38,520
blame people for jumping to a conclusion

1523
01:02:41,930 --> 01:02:40,380
and you're like maybe there is something

1524
01:02:43,970 --> 01:02:41,940
there maybe something's going on I mean

1525
01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:43,980
I'm always skeptical of that and I'm

1526
01:02:47,210 --> 01:02:45,540
even skeptical that by the end of the

1527
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:47,220
year there's going to be these amazing

1528
01:02:51,170 --> 01:02:48,960
Revelations but

1529
01:02:52,730 --> 01:02:51,180
I hope my fingers are crossed we'll see

1530
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:52,740
you know

1531
01:02:56,930 --> 01:02:55,680
um let's see I'm trying to see questions

1532
01:02:58,190 --> 01:02:56,940
more

1533
01:02:59,690 --> 01:02:58,200
what do you think about the best case

1534
01:03:01,069 --> 01:02:59,700
scenario for Eric Davis to speak openly

1535
01:03:02,930 --> 01:03:01,079
to the public it's not going to happen

1536
01:03:05,329 --> 01:03:02,940
where he works they won't let him speak

1537
01:03:07,370 --> 01:03:05,339
so as far as

1538
01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:07,380
in in the past he's spoken about the

1539
01:03:11,210 --> 01:03:09,480
crash retrieval program let's say

1540
01:03:12,589 --> 01:03:11,220
he's spoken about the crash retrieval

1541
01:03:14,809 --> 01:03:12,599
program he's spoken about other world

1542
01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:14,819
powers having vehicles let's just say

1543
01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:16,200
and he wasn't quoted in the New York

1544
01:03:22,190 --> 01:03:18,660
Times saying you know we retrieved

1545
01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:22,200
vehicles from uh we retrieved from

1546
01:03:26,990 --> 01:03:25,020
off-world Vehicles not made

1547
01:03:30,530 --> 01:03:27,000
by human Android they say not made on

1548
01:03:32,270 --> 01:03:30,540
this Earth anyway they said both let's

1549
01:03:34,849 --> 01:03:32,280
just say in theory

1550
01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:34,859
where he works they said you know what

1551
01:03:39,470 --> 01:03:36,900
you can speak to the media again I don't

1552
01:03:40,910 --> 01:03:39,480
know if if there were some other thing

1553
01:03:42,289 --> 01:03:40,920
going on with all of this talking about

1554
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:42,299
whistleblowers and I don't know if he

1555
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:44,160
would be a whistleblower but I don't

1556
01:03:48,049 --> 01:03:45,599
know if he would still be able to be as

1557
01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:48,059
open as he was back then I mean he's on

1558
01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:49,619
Facebook and he says things every now

1559
01:03:54,530 --> 01:03:52,079
and then in a closed Facebook group but

1560
01:03:55,549 --> 01:03:54,540
he was very open back you know I don't

1561
01:03:57,410 --> 01:03:55,559
know how many years ago it was like

1562
01:03:59,569 --> 01:03:57,420
maybe five six years ago like oh this is

1563
01:04:02,390 --> 01:03:59,579
amazing what he's saying now I'm not

1564
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:02,400
sure but like like I said he can't speak

1565
01:04:06,650 --> 01:04:04,920
because his job doesn't want him to do

1566
01:04:08,289 --> 01:04:06,660
media so it's in there's really no

1567
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:08,299
debate there it's not going to happen

1568
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:11,280
unless it hits the lottery to me it's

1569
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:14,400
analogous to uh to Paul Hill

1570
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:17,280
at Nasa Langley in the 50s 60s 70s they

1571
01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:19,920
wouldn't let him write his book about

1572
01:04:24,049 --> 01:04:21,540
his findings

1573
01:04:27,049 --> 01:04:24,059
and you and I have talked ad nauseam

1574
01:04:29,930 --> 01:04:27,059
about you know that book and how he had

1575
01:04:32,030 --> 01:04:29,940
it all figured out right they had it

1576
01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:32,040
wasn't just him right this this was NASA

1577
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:36,180
Langley this this is not just one guy uh

1578
01:04:40,190 --> 01:04:37,920
but they would not let him publish that

1579
01:04:43,370 --> 01:04:40,200
and so that book did not get published

1580
01:04:46,010 --> 01:04:43,380
until he died and his daughter Julie

1581
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:46,020
public published the book posthumously

1582
01:04:51,650 --> 01:04:48,240
okay and all that's that's all history

1583
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:51,660
but um if you go through that book you

1584
01:04:56,569 --> 01:04:55,440
realize that we knew a shitload pardon

1585
01:04:58,430 --> 01:04:56,579
me

1586
01:05:02,690 --> 01:04:58,440
way back

1587
01:05:05,030 --> 01:05:02,700
and uh the the things that he leaves out

1588
01:05:07,609 --> 01:05:05,040
and so so I and so he's sort of like you

1589
01:05:09,470 --> 01:05:07,619
know constrained or Paul Hill was just

1590
01:05:11,089 --> 01:05:09,480
like Eric Davis is with Aerospace

1591
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:11,099
Corporation

1592
01:05:14,089 --> 01:05:12,660
I don't I don't see him ever going

1593
01:05:16,190 --> 01:05:14,099
public

1594
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,200
not until maybe he retires and they

1595
01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:18,720
release him from the obligations and

1596
01:05:22,370 --> 01:05:20,640
there's a lot of water to go into the

1597
01:05:23,690 --> 01:05:22,380
bridge between now and then of course uh

1598
01:05:27,170 --> 01:05:23,700
we don't know what's going to happen but

1599
01:05:29,450 --> 01:05:27,180
but if you go back to Paul Hill uh they

1600
01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:29,460
he had so much of it figured out the

1601
01:05:35,109 --> 01:05:33,180
only things he didn't know really uh was

1602
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:35,119
sort of motive

1603
01:05:41,690 --> 01:05:39,839
intent right and original origin and the

1604
01:05:43,789 --> 01:05:41,700
exact power plant

1605
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:43,799
the nature of the power plant or the

1606
01:05:47,690 --> 01:05:44,640
engine

1607
01:05:48,890 --> 01:05:47,700
on these things but now as I understand

1608
01:05:50,990 --> 01:05:48,900
it

1609
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:51,000
after observing these things or I don't

1610
01:05:57,970 --> 01:05:54,000
know digging them up shooting them down

1611
01:06:02,750 --> 01:05:57,980
them crashing however we've supposedly

1612
01:06:05,569 --> 01:06:02,760
supposedly come across these vehicles

1613
01:06:07,549 --> 01:06:05,579
I guess we figured it out

1614
01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:07,559
either by watching their performance and

1615
01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:08,880
then kind of going through the physics

1616
01:06:12,890 --> 01:06:10,200
and figuring out how to do it because I

1617
01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:12,900
know what I saw was was extraordinary

1618
01:06:16,910 --> 01:06:14,160
and

1619
01:06:20,030 --> 01:06:16,920
I I think it was American made but I

1620
01:06:22,490 --> 01:06:20,040
have no way of knowing that

1621
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,500
question have any of your contacts

1622
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:24,000
indicated that something is happening in

1623
01:06:27,849 --> 01:06:25,680
the months ahead I'm pretty sure you

1624
01:06:30,170 --> 01:06:27,859
would have told me that so it's no but

1625
01:06:32,329 --> 01:06:30,180
following up on that what are the people

1626
01:06:34,670 --> 01:06:32,339
in your circles however how are things

1627
01:06:37,250 --> 01:06:34,680
are they commenting on this topic more

1628
01:06:38,329 --> 01:06:37,260
than they have in the past I've seen an

1629
01:06:40,490 --> 01:06:38,339
entire

1630
01:06:43,609 --> 01:06:40,500
there's lots of words I could use to

1631
01:06:46,430 --> 01:06:43,619
describe it I'll call it a sea change so

1632
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:46,440
so in my community of friends former

1633
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:49,140
bosses people that vastly outranked me

1634
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:50,880
I'm talking about maybe captains

1635
01:06:58,190 --> 01:06:55,440
Admirals generals others uh and and

1636
01:07:00,410 --> 01:06:58,200
people that vastly outrank me

1637
01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:00,420
intellectually people that are you know

1638
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:02,760
scientists physicists engineers

1639
01:07:08,510 --> 01:07:06,240
of the highest caliber this is number

1640
01:07:10,970 --> 01:07:08,520
one something that I sort of secretly

1641
01:07:12,890 --> 01:07:10,980
brought up back in in the

1642
01:07:14,450 --> 01:07:12,900
early 2000s

1643
01:07:16,430 --> 01:07:14,460
uh

1644
01:07:17,809 --> 01:07:16,440
privately asking them hey you know

1645
01:07:19,970 --> 01:07:17,819
here's what I saw what do you think it

1646
01:07:23,329 --> 01:07:19,980
was and that had to it was like walking

1647
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:23,339
on eggshells but in the last two years

1648
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:24,900
especially

1649
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:27,839
I've seen an entire sea change where

1650
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:31,760
we're all uh sort of broadly

1651
01:07:38,210 --> 01:07:34,799
exchanging a link from whether it's CNN

1652
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:38,220
or Fox News or wherever it's from in

1653
01:07:42,010 --> 01:07:39,359
emails

1654
01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:42,020
like did you see this did you see that

1655
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:44,640
and these are these are some of these

1656
01:07:51,770 --> 01:07:48,240
people are folks that I would never have

1657
01:07:55,549 --> 01:07:51,780
broached the topic of UFOs with

1658
01:07:58,010 --> 01:07:55,559
right because I I wanted to maintain my

1659
01:08:01,130 --> 01:07:58,020
air of professionalism my respect for

1660
01:08:03,410 --> 01:08:01,140
them and and vice versa knowing the

1661
01:08:04,430 --> 01:08:03,420
community we came from you just didn't

1662
01:08:06,529 --> 01:08:04,440
go there

1663
01:08:08,690 --> 01:08:06,539
but now it's there's this sort of broad

1664
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,700
Exchange in email and the willingness to

1665
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,520
talk about it is is much greater the

1666
01:08:16,249 --> 01:08:13,440
taboo is

1667
01:08:18,590 --> 01:08:16,259
stripped as far as I can tell if people

1668
01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:18,600
are showing interest

1669
01:08:22,189 --> 01:08:20,520
I'm part of a large group of people on

1670
01:08:23,950 --> 01:08:22,199
an email distribution that I receive

1671
01:08:26,809 --> 01:08:23,960
emails every morning

1672
01:08:29,390 --> 01:08:26,819
that are sort of you know not classified

1673
01:08:31,370 --> 01:08:29,400
things of course I'm talking about

1674
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:31,380
my private email account

1675
01:08:34,370 --> 01:08:32,040
um

1676
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:34,380
made up of some people that

1677
01:08:41,209 --> 01:08:36,839
would would impress almost anybody these

1678
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:41,219
people are again retired intelligence

1679
01:08:47,329 --> 01:08:43,920
folks admirals

1680
01:08:48,590 --> 01:08:47,339
you name it in from the Intel world

1681
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,600
and

1682
01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:50,640
this is popping up all the time amongst

1683
01:08:55,010 --> 01:08:53,580
us I could not have fathomed this three

1684
01:08:58,370 --> 01:08:55,020
four years ago

1685
01:09:02,570 --> 01:09:00,530
does Michael feel there's a conflict

1686
01:09:05,450 --> 01:09:02,580
arising from whistleblowers revealing

1687
01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:05,460
research programs that contradict the

1688
01:09:10,910 --> 01:09:08,160
official stance provided by the podium

1689
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:10,920
if it leaks publicly

1690
01:09:15,110 --> 01:09:13,679
oh I think yeah that's they're you've

1691
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:15,120
talked about this you and I have talked

1692
01:09:19,789 --> 01:09:18,000
about this this is a difficult dance

1693
01:09:22,010 --> 01:09:19,799
right you have your historical

1694
01:09:24,289 --> 01:09:22,020
precedence of always denying it now

1695
01:09:26,570 --> 01:09:24,299
you've got Congress reaching into it and

1696
01:09:28,849 --> 01:09:26,580
trying to investigate it and you've got

1697
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:28,859
the legislation that allows these

1698
01:09:35,209 --> 01:09:30,960
whistleblowers to come forward

1699
01:09:38,209 --> 01:09:35,219
uh and and and supposedly protects them

1700
01:09:40,849 --> 01:09:38,219
but then you've got the dance of of what

1701
01:09:42,289 --> 01:09:40,859
whatever they say can that can can we be

1702
01:09:45,410 --> 01:09:42,299
told

1703
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:45,420
because to tell all of us is telling our

1704
01:09:48,590 --> 01:09:46,799
adversaries

1705
01:09:50,090 --> 01:09:48,600
so some of this stuff is going to stay

1706
01:09:53,090 --> 01:09:50,100
locked up

1707
01:09:54,830 --> 01:09:53,100
behind closed doors uh it's it's going

1708
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:54,840
to be interesting and I'm sure that the

1709
01:10:01,729 --> 01:09:58,560
decisions around how to reveal

1710
01:10:04,250 --> 01:10:01,739
whatever information there really is uh

1711
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:04,260
that's a complicated process

1712
01:10:09,410 --> 01:10:07,199
you know depending on the compelling

1713
01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:09,420
nature of the information you know my

1714
01:10:14,090 --> 01:10:12,360
fellow Americans we're not alone

1715
01:10:16,010 --> 01:10:14,100
that's

1716
01:10:18,410 --> 01:10:16,020
that could be potentially I don't know

1717
01:10:20,450 --> 01:10:18,420
on one hand devastating

1718
01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:20,460
or it could be enlightening or it could

1719
01:10:24,890 --> 01:10:21,900
be somewhere in between

1720
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:24,900
and I'm sure there if that's the case if

1721
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:27,600
all this is truly where the data is

1722
01:10:30,590 --> 01:10:28,860
pointing that there's something there

1723
01:10:33,050 --> 01:10:30,600
and something something's been going on

1724
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:33,060
all these years then they're having to

1725
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:35,040
make a decision that's that's a very

1726
01:10:39,770 --> 01:10:37,920
hard one to make about how much and when

1727
01:10:43,550 --> 01:10:39,780
how quickly

1728
01:10:45,530 --> 01:10:43,560
to let us know right so

1729
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:45,540
and and I go back and forth on that you

1730
01:10:49,790 --> 01:10:47,520
know I'm like just rip the Band-Aid off

1731
01:10:51,169 --> 01:10:49,800
and just announce it but then I see you

1732
01:10:53,330 --> 01:10:51,179
know I watched it was a Fox news

1733
01:10:55,250 --> 01:10:53,340
commentator he's like you know what I

1734
01:10:57,470 --> 01:10:55,260
don't believe in UFOs or aliens it's not

1735
01:10:59,450 --> 01:10:57,480
in the Bible God made humans and they're

1736
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,460
the only ones and it's like all right

1737
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:01,199
people like that are gonna struggle with

1738
01:11:04,970 --> 01:11:02,880
this and there's you know it's not just

1739
01:11:06,590 --> 01:11:04,980
religious certain religious folks a lot

1740
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,600
of people people just don't pay

1741
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:08,159
attention to it I think because they're

1742
01:11:12,830 --> 01:11:10,980
scared of what it could represent since

1743
01:11:15,290 --> 01:11:12,840
we don't know what it represents

1744
01:11:18,530 --> 01:11:15,300
yeah I I go back to something that Tom

1745
01:11:21,530 --> 01:11:18,540
Delong said that he learned uh for what

1746
01:11:24,290 --> 01:11:21,540
it's worth that rather than crushed

1747
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:24,300
religion and all the pillars of our you

1748
01:11:29,050 --> 01:11:26,159
know that support our found you know the

1749
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:29,060
foundations of our belief systems

1750
01:11:35,330 --> 01:11:32,880
regardless of society that whatever this

1751
01:11:38,270 --> 01:11:35,340
is and I'm paraphrasing I can't remember

1752
01:11:41,470 --> 01:11:38,280
his exact words and he was apparently

1753
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:41,480
told this by his his uh

1754
01:11:48,050 --> 01:11:44,880
contacts in the government that it it

1755
01:11:50,450 --> 01:11:48,060
makes it makes the concept of the

1756
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:50,460
concept and I don't mean to disparage

1757
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:52,080
anybody's religion when I say the

1758
01:11:55,729 --> 01:11:54,239
concept of God

1759
01:11:58,430 --> 01:11:55,739
uh

1760
01:12:00,050 --> 01:11:58,440
the Holy Trinity you know

1761
01:12:02,990 --> 01:12:00,060
whatever

1762
01:12:05,330 --> 01:12:03,000
it makes it even grander

1763
01:12:09,709 --> 01:12:05,340
that he not only

1764
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:09,719
created us he it whatever God is Not

1765
01:12:15,530 --> 01:12:12,960
only created us but created this

1766
01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:15,540
endless apparently universe

1767
01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:17,820
and and there are others

1768
01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:19,560
that he created

1769
01:12:25,130 --> 01:12:22,620
so he was even more omnipotent he was

1770
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:25,140
even more creative than we're aware of

1771
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,320
which makes him makes God even greater

1772
01:12:32,810 --> 01:12:31,440
or grander and he explained all that I

1773
01:12:34,370 --> 01:12:32,820
just trashed it I didn't do a very good

1774
01:12:36,410 --> 01:12:34,380
job of that but that's what he was

1775
01:12:38,530 --> 01:12:36,420
basically saying he was he's basically

1776
01:12:41,689 --> 01:12:38,540
saying no it's not the end of religion

1777
01:12:44,990 --> 01:12:41,699
it's it's the enhancement of our

1778
01:12:47,570 --> 01:12:45,000
understanding of who God is what it is

1779
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:47,580
like God is like I think he said God is

1780
01:12:53,390 --> 01:12:50,400
really the universe it's it's this power

1781
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:53,400
that we all can tap into

1782
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:54,480
um

1783
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:56,640
anyway people can go Google that and

1784
01:13:00,050 --> 01:12:58,560
find find what he said said about it but

1785
01:13:02,209 --> 01:13:00,060
I thought that was it I thought it was

1786
01:13:04,010 --> 01:13:02,219
both interesting and depending on where

1787
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,020
you stand on stuff like that it was

1788
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:07,199
interesting and Faithfully reassuring

1789
01:13:12,050 --> 01:13:09,840
rather than frightening right yeah and

1790
01:13:16,850 --> 01:13:12,060
then and then Lou comes along and he's

1791
01:13:21,709 --> 01:13:18,890
he's asked you know how did you feel

1792
01:13:23,870 --> 01:13:21,719
about that or when you found out and he

1793
01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:23,880
just kind of you know

1794
01:13:27,950 --> 01:13:26,760
somber I'm like yeah he's like like what

1795
01:13:29,390 --> 01:13:27,960
do you mean summer and he's like well

1796
01:13:31,729 --> 01:13:29,400
basically imagine learning everything

1797
01:13:32,990 --> 01:13:31,739
you learned on Sunday school and blah

1798
01:13:34,610 --> 01:13:33,000
blah blah and all I don't know if he

1799
01:13:36,290 --> 01:13:34,620
said Sunday school he's like is wrong

1800
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:36,300
imagine everything you learned is wrong

1801
01:13:42,649 --> 01:13:39,840
and things aren't how they seem

1802
01:13:44,990 --> 01:13:42,659
I hope I I I'd love to hear that because

1803
01:13:46,610 --> 01:13:45,000
I don't for me and you I'm like we can

1804
01:13:48,830 --> 01:13:46,620
handle that but we know people are gonna

1805
01:13:51,530 --> 01:13:48,840
have struggle a big time struggle with

1806
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:51,540
whatever it is this is a good one does

1807
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:53,040
Michael have any thoughts and I know you

1808
01:13:58,910 --> 01:13:55,199
do regarding Stratton and Taylor's moves

1809
01:14:00,770 --> 01:13:58,920
to Radiance Technologies any ideas on

1810
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:00,780
this from a strategic point of view what

1811
01:14:05,330 --> 01:14:03,600
they might be planning anticipating

1812
01:14:06,530 --> 01:14:05,340
well this might surprise even you

1813
01:14:08,030 --> 01:14:06,540
because we haven't talked about it but

1814
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:08,040
I'm actually putting in an application

1815
01:14:14,570 --> 01:14:11,760
to radios technology oh exclusive really

1816
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:14,580
well because they're south of here in uh

1817
01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:16,560
in Huntsville but has nothing to do with

1818
01:14:20,450 --> 01:14:19,020
these two guys so you would be you would

1819
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,460
be in Huntsville

1820
01:14:25,010 --> 01:14:23,040
yep it's an hour about an hour south of

1821
01:14:27,050 --> 01:14:25,020
me so another reason for me to come to

1822
01:14:28,850 --> 01:14:27,060
the southeast although you already are

1823
01:14:31,610 --> 01:14:28,860
in the Southeast you could do a three in

1824
01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:33,290
um yeah I

1825
01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:37,080
Radiance interests me uh I'm at the

1826
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:39,540
sunset of my career uh I don't really

1827
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:41,760
plan on leading my company but

1828
01:14:48,530 --> 01:14:44,880
because I want to go to Huntsville

1829
01:14:50,750 --> 01:14:48,540
um Radiance is a big player there so I

1830
01:14:53,209 --> 01:14:50,760
probably won't you know at my age you

1831
01:14:54,350 --> 01:14:53,219
don't hire a 59 year old

1832
01:14:57,890 --> 01:14:54,360
um

1833
01:15:01,850 --> 01:14:57,900
easily right unless I'm very high value

1834
01:15:04,010 --> 01:15:01,860
for something right so but uh yeah I

1835
01:15:05,570 --> 01:15:04,020
don't see anything

1836
01:15:07,729 --> 01:15:05,580
um

1837
01:15:08,570 --> 01:15:07,739
weird about it in other words do I think

1838
01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:08,580
that

1839
01:15:13,250 --> 01:15:10,980
Radiance would be involved and I have no

1840
01:15:14,810 --> 01:15:13,260
idea if they're involved in this topic

1841
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:14,820
but they would certainly these two

1842
01:15:17,870 --> 01:15:16,560
individuals

1843
01:15:20,450 --> 01:15:17,880
you know there's nothing they have

1844
01:15:22,430 --> 01:15:20,460
baggage but they have sort of a common

1845
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:22,440
interest or common involvement in some

1846
01:15:25,970 --> 01:15:23,520
ways

1847
01:15:27,770 --> 01:15:25,980
I I can't answer the question I don't I

1848
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:27,780
don't know from a strategic point of

1849
01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:29,040
view

1850
01:15:35,330 --> 01:15:31,920
if this is pointing towards maybe

1851
01:15:37,070 --> 01:15:35,340
Radiance involvement in this topic I I

1852
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:37,080
don't know

1853
01:15:42,709 --> 01:15:41,040
most important thing in the history of

1854
01:15:44,209 --> 01:15:42,719
mankind you would think that Congress

1855
01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:44,219
would have kicked the doors open on

1856
01:15:49,070 --> 01:15:46,980
these Legacy programs by now this should

1857
01:15:50,570 --> 01:15:49,080
ring alarm Bells suggesting that there's

1858
01:15:52,490 --> 01:15:50,580
really nothing to it I think that's what

1859
01:15:55,370 --> 01:15:52,500
they're saying um what would happen if

1860
01:15:56,689 --> 01:15:55,380
the gang F6 found out that Lockheed had

1861
01:15:58,010 --> 01:15:56,699
a craft they knew what building it was

1862
01:15:59,390 --> 01:15:58,020
and they showed up there would it just

1863
01:16:01,970 --> 01:15:59,400
be would they just be met by armed

1864
01:16:03,530 --> 01:16:01,980
guards and say you don't have a need to

1865
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:03,540
know you're not on the list sorry go

1866
01:16:09,530 --> 01:16:05,640
away like Admiral Wilson

1867
01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:09,540
did you leave two out for a purpose

1868
01:16:13,070 --> 01:16:12,239
did I leave what what out it's a gang of

1869
01:16:18,770 --> 01:16:13,080
eight

1870
01:16:20,450 --> 01:16:18,780
are they coming with a gang of six well

1871
01:16:23,570 --> 01:16:20,460
we just made we made an edit there's

1872
01:16:26,689 --> 01:16:23,580
only six now sorry yeah

1873
01:16:31,130 --> 01:16:29,570
let me think about that

1874
01:16:32,990 --> 01:16:31,140
I mean we've kind of talked about this

1875
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:33,000
before uh

1876
01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:39,430
for decades has been the biggest problem

1877
01:16:47,870 --> 01:16:43,199
and this goes back to Delong melon

1878
01:16:51,290 --> 01:16:47,880
Elizondo and the whole rest of the crew

1879
01:16:53,149 --> 01:16:51,300
um getting you know little low ball

1880
01:16:55,729 --> 01:16:53,159
people like me involved that had a

1881
01:16:58,610 --> 01:16:55,739
sighting because they wanted to have and

1882
01:17:01,910 --> 01:16:58,620
they did it with the unidentified series

1883
01:17:03,950 --> 01:17:01,920
um History Channel that was designed to

1884
01:17:07,010 --> 01:17:03,960
both educate America

1885
01:17:08,510 --> 01:17:07,020
and help begin to strip the taboo from

1886
01:17:09,649 --> 01:17:08,520
the topic

1887
01:17:12,290 --> 01:17:09,659
uh

1888
01:17:14,990 --> 01:17:12,300
so none of this would have occurred

1889
01:17:16,910 --> 01:17:15,000
without this what I would kind of call

1890
01:17:20,090 --> 01:17:16,920
the Herculean effort

1891
01:17:21,649 --> 01:17:20,100
from to the Stars I mean I don't care if

1892
01:17:24,110 --> 01:17:21,659
people like them or not I don't think if

1893
01:17:26,450 --> 01:17:24,120
you invested it to the stars or not but

1894
01:17:28,850 --> 01:17:26,460
what they did what Chris Mellon has done

1895
01:17:31,790 --> 01:17:28,860
what Lou Elizondo has done

1896
01:17:34,729 --> 01:17:31,800
was absolutely instrumental in getting

1897
01:17:37,790 --> 01:17:34,739
the ball rolling otherwise we would all

1898
01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:37,800
be back to about 2016.

1899
01:17:42,410 --> 01:17:39,600
and

1900
01:17:44,030 --> 01:17:42,420
going on YouTube looking for UFO videos

1901
01:17:46,669 --> 01:17:44,040
and trying to figure out what's going on

1902
01:17:47,570 --> 01:17:46,679
and with skin walker ratchet even a

1903
01:17:50,330 --> 01:17:47,580
thing

1904
01:17:52,010 --> 01:17:50,340
in our psyche back then right

1905
01:17:55,130 --> 01:17:52,020
all of this

1906
01:17:57,229 --> 01:17:55,140
the credit goes to those guys

1907
01:17:59,450 --> 01:17:57,239
and now and now we see the legend of

1908
01:18:01,010 --> 01:17:59,460
legislation

1909
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:01,020
in Congress

1910
01:18:06,290 --> 01:18:03,840
and the Senate I wouldn't have dreamed

1911
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:06,300
you know I can remember back in the

1912
01:18:11,930 --> 01:18:08,880
Intel community in in the early 2000s me

1913
01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:11,940
quietly asking colleagues and drawing on

1914
01:18:17,090 --> 01:18:13,920
the Whiteboard what I saw

1915
01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:17,100
and and saying hey is this like a

1916
01:18:21,470 --> 01:18:19,080
program that I don't know about and this

1917
01:18:23,090 --> 01:18:21,480
is ours or was this you know and I

1918
01:18:25,310 --> 01:18:23,100
didn't even want to say or was this a

1919
01:18:27,770 --> 01:18:25,320
UFO I didn't I didn't dare hardly say

1920
01:18:30,590 --> 01:18:27,780
that I mean because

1921
01:18:32,570 --> 01:18:30,600
you just didn't do it we've come we've

1922
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:32,580
come a long way

1923
01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:35,760
right in a very short time

1924
01:18:39,890 --> 01:18:38,040
and I understand people are impatient

1925
01:18:41,090 --> 01:18:39,900
with it I think you know I've said this

1926
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:41,100
before and I'm gonna have to go shortly

1927
01:18:52,430 --> 01:18:49,669
it's be careful what we ask for right

1928
01:18:54,649 --> 01:18:52,440
maybe it's so Grand and wonderful that

1929
01:18:56,930 --> 01:18:54,659
there's a gee whiz moment where they go

1930
01:18:58,910 --> 01:18:56,940
oh here's our they roll out some

1931
01:19:01,070 --> 01:18:58,920
technology and we go oh wow so we have

1932
01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:01,080
correct anti-gravity I don't think

1933
01:19:04,970 --> 01:19:02,400
that's going to happen

1934
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:04,980
I think the other aspect of where we got

1935
01:19:09,649 --> 01:19:06,960
that technology from and what these

1936
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:09,659
things are and who it is why they're

1937
01:19:13,790 --> 01:19:10,560
here

1938
01:19:16,850 --> 01:19:13,800
is uh really super sensitive

1939
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:16,860
so maybe some people say they can handle

1940
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:19,440
it maybe we can maybe it'll be shocking

1941
01:19:24,350 --> 01:19:22,140
to others uh maybe it'll be worse than

1942
01:19:26,209 --> 01:19:24,360
shocking to others and it's not just

1943
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:26,219
others it's not just your neighbor you

1944
01:19:31,370 --> 01:19:28,560
got to think about all the world's

1945
01:19:33,169 --> 01:19:31,380
societies all the world's religions all

1946
01:19:35,630 --> 01:19:33,179
their belief systems

1947
01:19:37,310 --> 01:19:35,640
how do you roll something else something

1948
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:37,320
out

1949
01:19:44,450 --> 01:19:41,520
to the world that is potentially

1950
01:19:47,630 --> 01:19:44,460
so if it's if it's off world or what

1951
01:19:49,610 --> 01:19:47,640
have you uh how do you do that

1952
01:19:52,970 --> 01:19:49,620
and how do people react

1953
01:19:57,410 --> 01:19:52,980
it's a really big problem

1954
01:19:58,970 --> 01:19:57,420
it's a huge huge challenge to try to

1955
01:20:00,590 --> 01:19:58,980
figure out how to do that I'm going to

1956
01:20:01,850 --> 01:20:00,600
follow up I'm going to give I'm going to

1957
01:20:04,970 --> 01:20:01,860
give you one more question but I'm going

1958
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:04,980
to just follow up with this is somebody

1959
01:20:08,630 --> 01:20:06,960
I told I'm pretty sure I told you who

1960
01:20:10,490 --> 01:20:08,640
told me this when I I'm obviously I'm

1961
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:10,500
not going to say very credible person

1962
01:20:14,630 --> 01:20:12,480
they said and I've said this on Twitter

1963
01:20:17,390 --> 01:20:14,640
but I have not said all of it

1964
01:20:20,330 --> 01:20:17,400
absolute bombshell Revelations should

1965
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:20,340
will occur for the general populace once

1966
01:20:25,550 --> 01:20:22,320
certain people come forward

1967
01:20:28,250 --> 01:20:25,560
some people will be relieved some people

1968
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,260
will be scared and some people will be

1969
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:30,239
angry it will depend on your

1970
01:20:35,209 --> 01:20:32,880
perspectives so kind of what you're

1971
01:20:36,830 --> 01:20:35,219
saying uh your last question

1972
01:20:38,510 --> 01:20:36,840
for Michael after your segment on the

1973
01:20:40,490 --> 01:20:38,520
show with Lou did Lou help you

1974
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:40,500
understand your sighting better

1975
01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:44,159
and then roll from that into why if we

1976
01:20:50,270 --> 01:20:46,199
did crack gravity we haven't been using

1977
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:50,280
it in Wartime to defend ourselves I know

1978
01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:51,600
you've answered that before but I get

1979
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:53,400
that question on Twitter yeah all the

1980
01:20:57,290 --> 01:20:54,960
time I I appreciate that question

1981
01:20:59,330 --> 01:20:57,300
somebody's obviously I would think it's

1982
01:21:01,850 --> 01:20:59,340
maybe it's seen us talk about this

1983
01:21:04,910 --> 01:21:01,860
before uh it's a good question last one

1984
01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:04,920
so so I'm torn between if you give me a

1985
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:06,239
second I can go find that that

1986
01:21:11,930 --> 01:21:08,880
PowerPoint chart that I made go ahead

1987
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:11,940
that I that I created from Lou's drawing

1988
01:21:15,770 --> 01:21:13,679
on a piece of paper or something yeah go

1989
01:21:17,390 --> 01:21:15,780
ahead go ahead put on my old man glasses

1990
01:21:19,130 --> 01:21:17,400
here by the way the person who sent ten

1991
01:21:21,050 --> 01:21:19,140
dollars and told me to look at the

1992
01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:21,060
forever conscious research Channel on

1993
01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:23,520
YouTube I I watched that uh it's a

1994
01:21:27,169 --> 01:21:25,199
really good Channel and the guy goes

1995
01:21:29,090 --> 01:21:27,179
over all the near-death experiences and

1996
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:29,100
and focuses a lot on the outlier

1997
01:21:32,810 --> 01:21:30,960
near-death experiences that you don't

1998
01:21:34,010 --> 01:21:32,820
hear about as much

1999
01:21:36,770 --> 01:21:34,020
um basically they talk about The

2000
01:21:39,530 --> 01:21:36,780
Reincarnation trap Theory but it's a

2001
01:21:42,410 --> 01:21:39,540
really good Channel forever research

2002
01:21:44,330 --> 01:21:42,420
forever conscious research Channel

2003
01:21:45,950 --> 01:21:44,340
and thank you for anybody else who sent

2004
01:21:48,530 --> 01:21:45,960
stickers and stuff and I'm sorry if I

2005
01:21:49,550 --> 01:21:48,540
didn't get to every question

2006
01:21:51,950 --> 01:21:49,560
um let me know when you're ready Michael

2007
01:21:54,290 --> 01:21:51,960
because I can answer questions too all

2008
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:54,300
right I'm going to share my screen

2009
01:21:58,189 --> 01:21:56,159
yeah Jimmy Carter did apparently hold

2010
01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:58,199
his head in his hands and wept after

2011
01:22:03,050 --> 01:21:59,760
being briefed and I talked to somebody

2012
01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:03,060
who knew the secret agent secret service

2013
01:22:08,570 --> 01:22:06,960
agent who apparently saw him crying

2014
01:22:09,709 --> 01:22:08,580
um who knows what he was told you know

2015
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:09,719
then we have John Harrington who

2016
01:22:13,070 --> 01:22:11,280
supposedly cried himself to sleep for

2017
01:22:14,090 --> 01:22:13,080
six weeks every night after briefing

2018
01:22:16,370 --> 01:22:14,100
Underground

2019
01:22:17,810 --> 01:22:16,380
what did they tell him well this is the

2020
01:22:19,790 --> 01:22:17,820
world my daughters are going to live in

2021
01:22:23,090 --> 01:22:19,800
and that's what he said

2022
01:22:26,870 --> 01:22:23,100
um that was Bryce zabel's partner

2023
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:26,880
Brett Friedman who met with Harrington

2024
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:29,520
after he drove Harrington's car across

2025
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:30,719
the country and Harrington apparently

2026
01:22:35,450 --> 01:22:33,600
wanted to get a get it off his chest

2027
01:22:38,330 --> 01:22:35,460
yeah

2028
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,340
are you seeing me or my screen

2029
01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:40,320
right now I'm seeing you but like what's

2030
01:22:45,229 --> 01:22:42,719
the screen look oh yeah there we go so

2031
01:22:46,729 --> 01:22:45,239
now it's both of us I can put it's right

2032
01:22:50,750 --> 01:22:46,739
now it's just the screen

2033
01:22:53,570 --> 01:22:50,760
just show the screen yep just the screen

2034
01:22:56,630 --> 01:22:53,580
so in answer to the question

2035
01:22:57,649 --> 01:22:56,640
Lou so let me explain this how this

2036
01:23:00,050 --> 01:22:57,659
happened

2037
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:00,060
so my interview with Lou is over and I

2038
01:23:04,370 --> 01:23:01,920
wasn't the only guy there your interview

2039
01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:04,380
for the show unidentified for people who

2040
01:23:08,930 --> 01:23:07,440
haven't seen it that's right and so so I

2041
01:23:10,430 --> 01:23:08,940
go back out to this thing called The

2042
01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:10,440
Green Room and I'm hanging out they've

2043
01:23:14,450 --> 01:23:12,719
got it's catered I'm hanging out and I

2044
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:14,460
asked the producer

2045
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:17,520
who came in and thanked me uh I said hey

2046
01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:20,159
before I the shuttle takes me back or

2047
01:23:24,050 --> 01:23:21,900
the whatever the driver takes me back to

2048
01:23:25,790 --> 01:23:24,060
the hotel

2049
01:23:27,290 --> 01:23:25,800
can you ask Lou if I can get a few

2050
01:23:30,830 --> 01:23:27,300
minutes with him alone

2051
01:23:32,630 --> 01:23:30,840
and so he did and and we did and in

2052
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:32,640
about an hour's time Lou and I go back

2053
01:23:39,410 --> 01:23:36,719
into this it's like a pantry area at a e

2054
01:23:42,050 --> 01:23:39,420
Studios and um

2055
01:23:46,490 --> 01:23:42,060
we go even further back inside there

2056
01:23:47,390 --> 01:23:46,500
where there's a printer and a copier Bay

2057
01:23:49,790 --> 01:23:47,400
um

2058
01:23:52,490 --> 01:23:49,800
really nice facility right so we're back

2059
01:23:54,590 --> 01:23:52,500
there alone the door is closed

2060
01:23:56,330 --> 01:23:54,600
and I said to him

2061
01:23:58,610 --> 01:23:56,340
so

2062
01:24:00,830 --> 01:23:58,620
you know we're both cleared right we

2063
01:24:03,410 --> 01:24:00,840
can't we're not in a skiff we both know

2064
01:24:05,090 --> 01:24:03,420
that he set the ground rules I recognize

2065
01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:05,100
the ground rules but

2066
01:24:09,770 --> 01:24:07,320
I said what did I what did I really see

2067
01:24:12,410 --> 01:24:09,780
I said because I have some ideas

2068
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:12,420
so he went over to the printer and he

2069
01:24:17,570 --> 01:24:15,360
opens up the printer the bay where you

2070
01:24:19,970 --> 01:24:17,580
put the paper in the big huge printer

2071
01:24:22,490 --> 01:24:19,980
machine he pulls out two or three sheets

2072
01:24:24,410 --> 01:24:22,500
he takes a ballpoint pen

2073
01:24:27,229 --> 01:24:24,420
and he asked me a question

2074
01:24:30,290 --> 01:24:27,239
so if you can see the screen

2075
01:24:33,050 --> 01:24:30,300
he asked me before he drew anything he

2076
01:24:36,350 --> 01:24:33,060
said what is the most common commonly

2077
01:24:38,990 --> 01:24:36,360
cited or reported type of UFO over the

2078
01:24:42,770 --> 01:24:39,000
decades or the Millennia whatever

2079
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:42,780
and I said well it's a disc or a flying

2080
01:24:49,010 --> 01:24:45,840
saucer so he drew this disc

2081
01:24:51,729 --> 01:24:49,020
and then he said so

2082
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:51,739
imagine or supposedly he used words

2083
01:24:57,830 --> 01:24:54,960
interchangeably imagine and supposedly

2084
01:25:00,410 --> 01:24:57,840
he said So based on

2085
01:25:02,689 --> 01:25:00,420
all the reports over the decades these

2086
01:25:05,209 --> 01:25:02,699
discs that are spotted they emit some

2087
01:25:09,610 --> 01:25:05,219
sort of electromagnetic field

2088
01:25:11,630 --> 01:25:09,620
or electromagnetic like field okay

2089
01:25:14,810 --> 01:25:11,640
this field

2090
01:25:17,689 --> 01:25:14,820
causes the

2091
01:25:20,030 --> 01:25:17,699
the ambient air around the vehicle so

2092
01:25:23,649 --> 01:25:20,040
I'm calling the disk a vehicle

2093
01:25:26,750 --> 01:25:23,659
it ionizes the air in much the same way

2094
01:25:29,930 --> 01:25:26,760
as the gas inside of a fluorescent light

2095
01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:29,940
bulb is ionized and glows whenever you

2096
01:25:36,890 --> 01:25:32,400
flip the switch on and turn the light on

2097
01:25:38,450 --> 01:25:36,900
okay it excites the molecules the oxygen

2098
01:25:41,090 --> 01:25:38,460
the nitrogen the carbon all the

2099
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:41,100
molecules in the air surrounding that

2100
01:25:46,729 --> 01:25:43,440
Flying Saucer or that disc and it makes

2101
01:25:48,530 --> 01:25:46,739
it Glow and depending on the power level

2102
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:48,540
of the engine

2103
01:25:53,810 --> 01:25:51,360
if it's at idle versus medium or full

2104
01:25:57,890 --> 01:25:53,820
power it makes the air glow a different

2105
01:26:00,530 --> 01:25:57,900
color now something else explained and

2106
01:26:03,530 --> 01:26:00,540
Paul Hill explains as well is the air

2107
01:26:06,590 --> 01:26:03,540
glows according to the cleanness the the

2108
01:26:09,890 --> 01:26:06,600
purity of the air so in a polluted

2109
01:26:12,590 --> 01:26:09,900
environment around say a steel mill or

2110
01:26:14,270 --> 01:26:12,600
some other more polluted or humid

2111
01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:14,280
environment the air is going to look

2112
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:15,360
different because there are other

2113
01:26:21,050 --> 01:26:18,480
components in the surrounding air

2114
01:26:22,970 --> 01:26:21,060
that are being energized by this

2115
01:26:25,970 --> 01:26:22,980
electromagnetic field this very high

2116
01:26:28,430 --> 01:26:25,980
energy field surrounding this disk okay

2117
01:26:33,169 --> 01:26:28,440
Okay so

2118
01:26:34,729 --> 01:26:33,179
I saw one of these I saw exactly this I

2119
01:26:37,790 --> 01:26:34,739
saw a black

2120
01:26:39,770 --> 01:26:37,800
equilateral triangle and this is about

2121
01:26:43,070 --> 01:26:39,780
as close as I could make it

2122
01:26:47,390 --> 01:26:43,080
and I saw three really bright

2123
01:26:49,490 --> 01:26:47,400
dots that I took to be lights

2124
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:49,500
um but they're not lights according to

2125
01:26:56,090 --> 01:26:52,800
Lou they are each

2126
01:26:59,030 --> 01:26:56,100
something using a propulsion system like

2127
01:27:01,729 --> 01:26:59,040
this and they are glowing

2128
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:01,739
there it's the air around the vehicle

2129
01:27:08,330 --> 01:27:06,000
that's glowing and it is it it is these

2130
01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:08,340
three particular power plants one in

2131
01:27:12,110 --> 01:27:09,840
each corner

2132
01:27:14,030 --> 01:27:12,120
that gives a vehicle

2133
01:27:16,250 --> 01:27:14,040
it's

2134
01:27:17,990 --> 01:27:16,260
cancels out its mass in other words

2135
01:27:20,510 --> 01:27:18,000
makes it

2136
01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:20,520
sort of gives us its anti-gravity effect

2137
01:27:26,570 --> 01:27:23,820
or whatever but that's all they do they

2138
01:27:27,470 --> 01:27:26,580
each have a field that they emit just

2139
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:27,480
like

2140
01:27:33,470 --> 01:27:30,000
the disc has a field when it's powered

2141
01:27:35,149 --> 01:27:33,480
up and so these fields overlap like a

2142
01:27:37,490 --> 01:27:35,159
Venn diagram

2143
01:27:39,770 --> 01:27:37,500
and so they Encompass the entire vehicle

2144
01:27:42,110 --> 01:27:39,780
they make it weightless but then there's

2145
01:27:45,050 --> 01:27:42,120
another there's another engine or power

2146
01:27:47,629 --> 01:27:45,060
plant or whatever in the center and this

2147
01:27:50,090 --> 01:27:47,639
is the one that makes it go

2148
01:27:51,950 --> 01:27:50,100
up down left right whatever these three

2149
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:51,960
give it weightlessness

2150
01:27:56,090 --> 01:27:54,719
this engine is how they get from point A

2151
01:27:56,810 --> 01:27:56,100
to point B

2152
01:27:58,610 --> 01:27:56,820
um

2153
01:28:00,590 --> 01:27:58,620
that's that's kind of what he explained

2154
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:00,600
so then I said well what about these

2155
01:28:05,930 --> 01:28:03,840
cigar shaped things that people saw or

2156
01:28:08,750 --> 01:28:05,940
that torpedo pencil shape thing that

2157
01:28:11,810 --> 01:28:08,760
Paul Hill and his colleague saw from

2158
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:11,820
NASA Langley back in you know in Norfolk

2159
01:28:16,850 --> 01:28:14,159
years ago decades ago

2160
01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:16,860
so he said well

2161
01:28:22,490 --> 01:28:19,440
the cigar shaped ones

2162
01:28:24,770 --> 01:28:22,500
he said imagine imagine he didn't say

2163
01:28:26,689 --> 01:28:24,780
they did he said imagine that there's

2164
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:26,699
the same similar sort of propulsion

2165
01:28:31,070 --> 01:28:28,560
source

2166
01:28:32,930 --> 01:28:31,080
as placed here in this in this and this

2167
01:28:36,050 --> 01:28:32,940
is again I made this from his drawing

2168
01:28:39,050 --> 01:28:36,060
and the fields that give it its

2169
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:39,060
weightlessness they overlap like a Venn

2170
01:28:43,070 --> 01:28:40,800
diagram right

2171
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:43,080
but then there would also either they

2172
01:28:49,370 --> 01:28:46,560
are co-producing forward power to go

2173
01:28:52,250 --> 01:28:49,380
forward backwards up down left right or

2174
01:28:54,649 --> 01:28:52,260
there maybe is another engine or what

2175
01:28:57,410 --> 01:28:54,659
have you power plant reactor whatever it

2176
01:29:00,290 --> 01:28:57,420
is that gives it its go and these two

2177
01:29:02,209 --> 01:29:00,300
things give it its weightlessness so

2178
01:29:04,910 --> 01:29:02,219
that's how

2179
01:29:07,610 --> 01:29:04,920
he answered my question about

2180
01:29:09,770 --> 01:29:07,620
what I saw

2181
01:29:13,550 --> 01:29:09,780
you think he was insinuating that the

2182
01:29:18,169 --> 01:29:15,830
when I told him that based on my time in

2183
01:29:20,450 --> 01:29:18,179
the Persian Gulf

2184
01:29:24,830 --> 01:29:20,460
and

2185
01:29:28,790 --> 01:29:24,840
Following air traffic whether it's

2186
01:29:32,649 --> 01:29:28,800
military aircraft or commercial Aviation

2187
01:29:36,890 --> 01:29:32,659
I said this thing number one it it flew

2188
01:29:39,410 --> 01:29:36,900
directly overhead in the same exact

2189
01:29:40,250 --> 01:29:39,420
direction we were headed it's like it

2190
01:29:43,129 --> 01:29:40,260
was

2191
01:29:46,850 --> 01:29:43,139
if you can imagine being in a in an

2192
01:29:49,610 --> 01:29:46,860
airplane over a big lake Lake Mead or

2193
01:29:51,649 --> 01:29:49,620
any other Lake where people are in in

2194
01:29:55,129 --> 01:29:51,659
boats down below

2195
01:29:56,689 --> 01:29:55,139
and you there's a boat that's

2196
01:29:58,250 --> 01:29:56,699
way up ahead you don't see it because

2197
01:29:59,930 --> 01:29:58,260
you're looking straight down but you see

2198
01:30:01,550 --> 01:29:59,940
this wake

2199
01:30:04,370 --> 01:30:01,560
and so what you go where's that boat

2200
01:30:06,410 --> 01:30:04,380
going or where is the boat so you kind

2201
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:06,420
of just keep following the wake

2202
01:30:11,450 --> 01:30:08,880
and then boom there's the boat right

2203
01:30:13,129 --> 01:30:11,460
you're directly overhead it was as if it

2204
01:30:15,169 --> 01:30:13,139
I'm not saying it did because it just

2205
01:30:17,689 --> 01:30:15,179
had I think it was coincidence but it

2206
01:30:21,530 --> 01:30:17,699
was headed north just like we were

2207
01:30:27,050 --> 01:30:24,830
that and it's just totally speculation

2208
01:30:31,610 --> 01:30:29,750
in that region of the world Saudi Arabia

2209
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:31,620
Bahrain

2210
01:30:36,890 --> 01:30:34,560
the United Arab Emirates countries all

2211
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:36,900
of those are allies of ours in some ways

2212
01:30:40,490 --> 01:30:38,400
many ways

2213
01:30:44,450 --> 01:30:40,500
and if you go back to the first Gulf War

2214
01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:44,460
nobody had ever heard of the F-117

2215
01:30:49,729 --> 01:30:47,040
and on the opening night of the war the

2216
01:30:53,149 --> 01:30:49,739
F-117 and and successive nights

2217
01:30:56,149 --> 01:30:53,159
thereafter we lost none of them but they

2218
01:30:58,070 --> 01:30:56,159
were bombing Baghdad with impunity where

2219
01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:58,080
do they come from they came from these

2220
01:31:02,810 --> 01:31:00,239
austere

2221
01:31:05,810 --> 01:31:02,820
Secret

2222
01:31:06,890 --> 01:31:05,820
Air Force bases that we had built out in

2223
01:31:11,149 --> 01:31:06,900
the desert

2224
01:31:16,370 --> 01:31:14,689
and those places are there as a

2225
01:31:20,629 --> 01:31:16,380
contingency

2226
01:31:24,169 --> 01:31:20,639
there's no one for miles around

2227
01:31:25,850 --> 01:31:24,179
such a vast open you know Countryside or

2228
01:31:28,850 --> 01:31:25,860
desert

2229
01:31:31,790 --> 01:31:28,860
and so we could conceivably have

2230
01:31:34,669 --> 01:31:31,800
something that's a reconnaissance plane

2231
01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:34,679
uh in the shape of a triangle that

2232
01:31:38,930 --> 01:31:36,239
doesn't show up on radar

2233
01:31:41,629 --> 01:31:38,940
that conceivably this thing was headed

2234
01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:41,639
north what was North of us that day

2235
01:31:44,990 --> 01:31:42,960
Iraq

2236
01:31:46,490 --> 01:31:45,000
okay Saddam was still in power this is

2237
01:31:49,490 --> 01:31:46,500
1992.

2238
01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:49,500
so this is all speculation

2239
01:31:54,110 --> 01:31:53,040
but my I told him that my sense was that

2240
01:31:55,729 --> 01:31:54,120
it was

2241
01:31:58,430 --> 01:31:55,739
that there was a pilot in that thing

2242
01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:58,440
that it was American made and it was on

2243
01:32:02,570 --> 01:32:00,960
a reconnaissance mission

2244
01:32:03,950 --> 01:32:02,580
um I can't know that

2245
01:32:05,450 --> 01:32:03,960
right

2246
01:32:08,570 --> 01:32:05,460
um

2247
01:32:10,490 --> 01:32:08,580
and we'll we'll probably never know

2248
01:32:13,550 --> 01:32:10,500
but the fact that it

2249
01:32:17,990 --> 01:32:13,560
so right next to where I was for folks

2250
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:18,000
that don't know I was on a an Aegis

2251
01:32:21,530 --> 01:32:19,920
Cruiser

2252
01:32:23,270 --> 01:32:21,540
and I was up about as high as you can

2253
01:32:25,550 --> 01:32:23,280
get on the ship without climbing the

2254
01:32:27,770 --> 01:32:25,560
Mast up where all the flags and The

2255
01:32:29,930 --> 01:32:27,780
Radars and Things Are

2256
01:32:32,570 --> 01:32:29,940
um I was standing up there with three

2257
01:32:33,770 --> 01:32:32,580
other people that were doing doing their

2258
01:32:37,070 --> 01:32:33,780
going about their business doing their

2259
01:32:41,330 --> 01:32:37,080
jobs I was just kind of hanging out

2260
01:32:43,550 --> 01:32:41,340
to my left about 150 feet away was an

2261
01:32:45,169 --> 01:32:43,560
aircraft carrier and we were hooked up

2262
01:32:47,629 --> 01:32:45,179
to this aircraft carrier with cables

2263
01:32:49,550 --> 01:32:47,639
lines and hoses doing a thing called

2264
01:32:51,649 --> 01:32:49,560
underway replenishment at sea

2265
01:32:53,930 --> 01:32:51,659
replenishment

2266
01:32:56,629 --> 01:32:53,940
there were no flight Ops going on

2267
01:33:00,770 --> 01:32:56,639
but the point is

2268
01:33:03,770 --> 01:33:00,780
this thing over flew Us in midday broad

2269
01:33:07,129 --> 01:33:03,780
daylight and it over flew

2270
01:33:10,669 --> 01:33:07,139
a National Asset an aircraft carrier is

2271
01:33:13,550 --> 01:33:10,679
a National Asset it is Sovereign United

2272
01:33:16,310 --> 01:33:13,560
States Territory and it is protected

2273
01:33:20,209 --> 01:33:16,320
like you would not believe the airspace

2274
01:33:23,330 --> 01:33:20,219
around it is not to be violated

2275
01:33:25,610 --> 01:33:23,340
super sensitive everybody's on high

2276
01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:25,620
alert supporting that aircraft carrier

2277
01:33:32,510 --> 01:33:28,880
protecting her from possible attack

2278
01:33:34,669 --> 01:33:32,520
either from submarines or or aircraft or

2279
01:33:37,250 --> 01:33:34,679
whatever so

2280
01:33:40,189 --> 01:33:37,260
the fact that this thing

2281
01:33:42,530 --> 01:33:40,199
overflow the aircraft carrier and nobody

2282
01:33:46,330 --> 01:33:42,540
twitched

2283
01:33:52,669 --> 01:33:50,209
other people thought too right

2284
01:33:54,229 --> 01:33:52,679
at least one other guy because we both

2285
01:33:56,450 --> 01:33:54,239
looked up and said the same thing at the

2286
01:33:58,250 --> 01:33:56,460
same time WTF

2287
01:34:00,649 --> 01:33:58,260
right

2288
01:34:04,370 --> 01:34:00,659
um and the fact that

2289
01:34:06,890 --> 01:34:04,380
and you can go on uh the website fighter

2290
01:34:09,530 --> 01:34:06,900
Suite it was silent right

2291
01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:09,540
well so it wasn't silent where I was I

2292
01:34:12,530 --> 01:34:10,800
mean meaning the environment wasn't

2293
01:34:17,090 --> 01:34:12,540
silent it's pretty noisy because this

2294
01:34:19,370 --> 01:34:17,100
this Cruiser is powered by a giant now

2295
01:34:21,530 --> 01:34:19,380
the craft with the craft was silent as

2296
01:34:23,209 --> 01:34:21,540
far as you can tell I I didn't hear like

2297
01:34:24,830 --> 01:34:23,219
when a jet overflies you right and

2298
01:34:27,950 --> 01:34:24,840
you're out there I'd say you hear the

2299
01:34:30,890 --> 01:34:27,960
jet this didn't make any noise

2300
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:30,900
whatsoever not that it wasn't making

2301
01:34:35,930 --> 01:34:33,360
noise but I didn't hear it

2302
01:34:40,490 --> 01:34:35,940
because the the ship itself that I was

2303
01:34:42,169 --> 01:34:40,500
on is powered by a a huge like a DC-10

2304
01:34:47,570 --> 01:34:42,179
jet engine

2305
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:47,580
it's burning kerosene and it's all you

2306
01:34:51,950 --> 01:34:49,679
know down geared back down to the shaft

2307
01:34:53,990 --> 01:34:51,960
to the propellers and whatever else but

2308
01:34:55,610 --> 01:34:54,000
the sound that comes from the from the

2309
01:34:58,610 --> 01:34:55,620
Smoke Stack or whatever you want to call

2310
01:35:00,649 --> 01:34:58,620
the exhaust it's it sounds like a jet

2311
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:00,659
engine running you hear the Whistle the

2312
01:35:06,530 --> 01:35:04,260
wine and all that so but but anytime

2313
01:35:09,169 --> 01:35:06,540
you're on one of those vessels and say

2314
01:35:11,450 --> 01:35:09,179
Navy jets fly over you like and they do

2315
01:35:12,770 --> 01:35:11,460
all the time well you hear the Navy jet

2316
01:35:14,570 --> 01:35:12,780
fly over because they're really loud

2317
01:35:17,090 --> 01:35:14,580
right this thing

2318
01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:17,100
didn't and it also didn't show up on

2319
01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:18,719
radar somebody was saying you ran down

2320
01:35:22,189 --> 01:35:20,400
and checked and it was not on radar it

2321
01:35:23,629 --> 01:35:22,199
should have been on radar you made it

2322
01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:23,639
down quickly

2323
01:35:26,810 --> 01:35:25,199
um and Michael has explained this in

2324
01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:26,820
detail in my first interview for people

2325
01:35:30,350 --> 01:35:28,560
who want to watch that I know you got to

2326
01:35:32,450 --> 01:35:30,360
go just quickly why don't we use the

2327
01:35:34,790 --> 01:35:32,460
technology if we've cracked Gravity the

2328
01:35:36,410 --> 01:35:34,800
just your brief version of why we

2329
01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:36,420
wouldn't break out this technology if we

2330
01:35:41,030 --> 01:35:37,920
had it

2331
01:35:44,930 --> 01:35:41,040
well why would you you don't need to

2332
01:35:46,850 --> 01:35:44,940
so the Russians have they're they're you

2333
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:46,860
know fifth or sixth generation Fighters

2334
01:35:52,129 --> 01:35:50,880
we've got our F-22 and now the F-35 to

2335
01:35:54,290 --> 01:35:52,139
counter that

2336
01:35:55,790 --> 01:35:54,300
the Chinese have whatever junk they

2337
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:55,800
create

2338
01:36:02,270 --> 01:35:59,760
um you don't need to come out with UFO

2339
01:36:07,850 --> 01:36:02,280
type technology to defeat your adversary

2340
01:36:10,310 --> 01:36:07,860
now would you be using it covertly to do

2341
01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:10,320
what's called ISR intelligence

2342
01:36:14,990 --> 01:36:12,000
surveillance and reconnaissance you know

2343
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:15,000
spying uh floating silently and

2344
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:17,760
invisibly over over the Kremlin and

2345
01:36:21,410 --> 01:36:19,679
sucking up data or something like that

2346
01:36:23,930 --> 01:36:21,420
you know or any anything else anywhere

2347
01:36:27,169 --> 01:36:23,940
else in the world sure I could see that

2348
01:36:29,030 --> 01:36:27,179
but you wouldn't want it

2349
01:36:31,250 --> 01:36:29,040
um a you'd have to be very careful about

2350
01:36:34,010 --> 01:36:31,260
where you deploy that thing

2351
01:36:37,129 --> 01:36:34,020
because what if it malfunctions what if

2352
01:36:38,810 --> 01:36:37,139
it has to crash land it it you know then

2353
01:36:41,390 --> 01:36:38,820
then the game is up

2354
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:41,400
that is if we have that technology I

2355
01:36:45,290 --> 01:36:43,440
personally my speculation is that we do

2356
01:36:48,830 --> 01:36:45,300
but I don't have any proof

2357
01:36:50,570 --> 01:36:48,840
uh but um you just you don't need to

2358
01:36:53,209 --> 01:36:50,580
bring it to Bear because it's not

2359
01:36:55,729 --> 01:36:53,219
necessary and once you do like if they

2360
01:36:58,910 --> 01:36:55,739
rolled it out Monday afternoon

2361
01:37:01,129 --> 01:36:58,920
uh at Palmdale at Skunk Works or

2362
01:37:02,450 --> 01:37:01,139
whatever and had a big big television

2363
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:02,460
event

2364
01:37:07,370 --> 01:37:04,080
here's our

2365
01:37:10,189 --> 01:37:07,380
what what is it tr3b or whatever

2366
01:37:11,689 --> 01:37:10,199
uh what's the point

2367
01:37:14,689 --> 01:37:11,699
because now everybody's going to be

2368
01:37:18,770 --> 01:37:14,699
clamoring well if you could do that oh

2369
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:18,780
well clean energy and yeah no that's

2370
01:37:24,649 --> 01:37:21,840
they wouldn't dare they wouldn't dare it

2371
01:37:27,169 --> 01:37:24,659
would be so closely tightly held

2372
01:37:29,390 --> 01:37:27,179
it would be

2373
01:37:31,310 --> 01:37:29,400
I've said this before

2374
01:37:33,709 --> 01:37:31,320
if you have such game-changing

2375
01:37:36,110 --> 01:37:33,719
technology you would really only bring

2376
01:37:38,570 --> 01:37:36,120
it to Bear if you're

2377
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:38,580
if if you're if your National survival

2378
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:40,800
was at stake

2379
01:37:46,070 --> 01:37:43,679
if you had no other choice at this stage

2380
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:46,080
now if another country suddenly cracked

2381
01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:46,800
it

2382
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:48,719
and rolled out something like that then

2383
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:50,639
yeah you might say hey yeah well we've

2384
01:37:55,610 --> 01:37:52,080
got one too as a matter of fact we've

2385
01:37:58,010 --> 01:37:55,620
got 15 or whatever right but no you you

2386
01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:58,020
wouldn't there's no there's no need

2387
01:38:01,729 --> 01:37:59,520
there's no need

2388
01:38:03,649 --> 01:38:01,739
it's an ace in the whole technology if

2389
01:38:05,930 --> 01:38:03,659
it exists for real

2390
01:38:09,169 --> 01:38:05,940
and and you don't you don't Reveal Your

2391
01:38:12,530 --> 01:38:09,179
you don't show your cards right so

2392
01:38:14,570 --> 01:38:12,540
that's my take but that's just that

2393
01:38:15,649 --> 01:38:14,580
I was gonna say and with that I will let

2394
01:38:16,970 --> 01:38:15,659
you go

2395
01:38:18,830 --> 01:38:16,980
um like I said folks are asking

2396
01:38:20,750 --> 01:38:18,840
questions about exciting like what he

2397
01:38:23,209 --> 01:38:20,760
did afterwards it's like I interviewed

2398
01:38:26,030 --> 01:38:23,219
him first time and that's what we

2399
01:38:28,430 --> 01:38:26,040
focused on so I will if you search on

2400
01:38:31,970 --> 01:38:28,440
YouTube in my videos you'll see it

2401
01:38:34,310 --> 01:38:31,980
um Michael thank you again yeah it's my

2402
01:38:38,770 --> 01:38:34,320
pleasure Joe well one day we will do

2403
01:38:41,629 --> 01:38:38,780
Paul Hill soon I promise yeah I promise

2404
01:38:45,229 --> 01:38:41,639
that's fine remember the the main reason

2405
01:38:46,189 --> 01:38:45,239
to do the Paul Hill uh book report if

2406
01:38:49,129 --> 01:38:46,199
you will

2407
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:49,139
is because it just kind of shows you

2408
01:38:54,229 --> 01:38:51,600
that a lot of what we're seeing even

2409
01:38:57,770 --> 01:38:54,239
with the standing up of Arrow

2410
01:39:01,070 --> 01:38:57,780
and all this all these machinations on

2411
01:39:01,970 --> 01:39:01,080
Capitol Hill to me it's like

2412
01:39:04,910 --> 01:39:01,980
um

2413
01:39:06,590 --> 01:39:04,920
don't pretend to me like we have to go

2414
01:39:09,229 --> 01:39:06,600
out and reinvent the wheel

2415
01:39:11,330 --> 01:39:09,239
you know when Bill Nelson the head of

2416
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:11,340
NASA is talking about you know they set

2417
01:39:16,250 --> 01:39:13,679
up this uh research group and they're

2418
01:39:18,590 --> 01:39:16,260
looking into UAP

2419
01:39:20,810 --> 01:39:18,600
my first question to him and I can't

2420
01:39:25,189 --> 01:39:20,820
believe nobody's asked him this

2421
01:39:28,010 --> 01:39:25,199
is uh what about NASA Langley in the 50s

2422
01:39:31,070 --> 01:39:28,020
60s 70s and Paul Hill who was an

2423
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:31,080
aerodynamicist a validated employee he's

2424
01:39:33,890 --> 01:39:32,880
got all the Bona fides you can go look

2425
01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:33,900
him up

2426
01:39:38,570 --> 01:39:36,000
he's a he was a real person doing real

2427
01:39:39,649 --> 01:39:38,580
research at a real organization within

2428
01:39:43,970 --> 01:39:39,659
NASA

2429
01:39:45,169 --> 01:39:43,980
are are they even aware of this surely

2430
01:39:47,090 --> 01:39:45,179
they are

2431
01:39:50,090 --> 01:39:47,100
but but somebody needs to ask that

2432
01:39:52,490 --> 01:39:50,100
question what about Paul Hill

2433
01:39:55,790 --> 01:39:52,500
what about NASA Langley's research in

2434
01:39:58,610 --> 01:39:55,800
the 50s 60s 70s and all of these gnomes

2435
01:40:00,229 --> 01:39:58,620
and he shows the math

2436
01:40:03,050 --> 01:40:00,239
in that book

2437
01:40:05,450 --> 01:40:03,060
uh literally shows the research and how

2438
01:40:08,270 --> 01:40:05,460
they derived the answers that they got

2439
01:40:09,950 --> 01:40:08,280
again they got everything they

2440
01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:09,960
understood the Luminosity they

2441
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:11,520
understood the movement the rapid

2442
01:40:17,450 --> 01:40:14,639
acceleration the right angle turns the

2443
01:40:20,450 --> 01:40:17,460
ground effects the ground traces

2444
01:40:22,610 --> 01:40:20,460
and he has he has exact he has

2445
01:40:25,970 --> 01:40:22,620
you know exact cases

2446
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:25,980
where these traits were determined or

2447
01:40:30,590 --> 01:40:28,800
observed and then go and proven out

2448
01:40:34,669 --> 01:40:30,600
shows the research

2449
01:40:35,570 --> 01:40:34,679
the physics behind how they verified it

2450
01:40:38,930 --> 01:40:35,580
um

2451
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:38,940
is NASA today are they using this

2452
01:40:43,669 --> 01:40:41,760
information as as a launching Point as a

2453
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,679
departure point for their current

2454
01:40:47,149 --> 01:40:45,360
research

2455
01:40:48,410 --> 01:40:47,159
that's that's what I would want to ask

2456
01:40:50,510 --> 01:40:48,420
him

2457
01:40:51,530 --> 01:40:50,520
and I I had somebody privately I asked

2458
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:51,540
him I said what did you think about the

2459
01:40:56,750 --> 01:40:54,000
Kirkpatrick and Avi lobe paper and I'm

2460
01:40:58,669 --> 01:40:56,760
like they called it a BS paper from the

2461
01:41:00,550 --> 01:40:58,679
aspect of when they were talking about

2462
01:41:04,430 --> 01:41:00,560
you would see a fireball you would hear

2463
01:41:05,810 --> 01:41:04,440
a sonic boom this stuff is you know we

2464
01:41:07,550 --> 01:41:05,820
have to stick with physics how we know

2465
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:07,560
it and this person said they need to

2466
01:41:11,870 --> 01:41:10,080
read Paul Hill's book so yeah

2467
01:41:13,370 --> 01:41:11,880
you're in good company

2468
01:41:14,629 --> 01:41:13,380
um and I need to read it and we need to

2469
01:41:17,450 --> 01:41:14,639
do that show and I'm gonna let you go

2470
01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:17,460
because I'm tired too so all right uh

2471
01:41:24,110 --> 01:41:19,199
we'll talk soon thanks again all right

2472
01:41:28,970 --> 01:41:27,770
I'm glad you guys like that and I know

2473
01:41:30,890 --> 01:41:28,980
there's even more we talk about

2474
01:41:32,990 --> 01:41:30,900
Kirkpatrick he he went into a lot of

2475
01:41:35,090 --> 01:41:33,000
detail as far as uh Steve you had

2476
01:41:36,830 --> 01:41:35,100
mentioned am I getting tired of the it's

2477
01:41:38,689 --> 01:41:36,840
happening soon it's happening soon yeah

2478
01:41:41,890 --> 01:41:38,699
of course I mean that's why I'm like all

2479
01:41:45,169 --> 01:41:41,900
right we'll see this year this summer

2480
01:41:46,250 --> 01:41:45,179
people are making so many predictions

2481
01:41:48,410 --> 01:41:46,260
and

2482
01:41:50,209 --> 01:41:48,420
some of them allegedly work in

2483
01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:50,219
intelligence Like Richard butt on

2484
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:51,600
Twitter and then you have Gary Nolan

2485
01:41:54,350 --> 01:41:52,800
saying this summer is going to bring

2486
01:41:56,330 --> 01:41:54,360
some really good stuff by the end of the

2487
01:41:57,890 --> 01:41:56,340
summer end of the year

2488
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,900
um I had my own source tell me stuff was

2489
01:42:01,390 --> 01:41:59,520
coming but they did not put a time frame

2490
01:42:04,370 --> 01:42:01,400
on it which is smart I'm not really

2491
01:42:05,689 --> 01:42:04,380
anytime anybody gives a

2492
01:42:07,729 --> 01:42:05,699
uh

2493
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:07,739
a time frame I'm always skeptical

2494
01:42:11,629 --> 01:42:09,840
because it never happens and it rarely

2495
01:42:15,050 --> 01:42:11,639
ever happens so it's never smart to give

2496
01:42:18,290 --> 01:42:15,060
a time frame but you know you had

2497
01:42:19,790 --> 01:42:18,300
John Ramirez saying in the next few

2498
01:42:21,890 --> 01:42:19,800
months we're going to have disclosure

2499
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:21,900
and Steve Bassett saying that so we'll

2500
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:22,800
see

2501
01:42:28,129 --> 01:42:24,960
I mean I'm not expecting that but if it

2502
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:28,139
happens we're great great but

2503
01:42:32,689 --> 01:42:30,480
you know I'd rather I'd rather

2504
01:42:34,729 --> 01:42:32,699
be the one who says

2505
01:42:36,530 --> 01:42:34,739
don't hold your breath and if I'm wrong

2506
01:42:38,090 --> 01:42:36,540
great

2507
01:42:41,090 --> 01:42:38,100
um we'll see it's not I mean we're in

2508
01:42:42,530 --> 01:42:41,100
April mid April so April 23rd

2509
01:42:44,510 --> 01:42:42,540
we don't have that we don't have that

2510
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,520
long to wait it's going to go quickly we

2511
01:42:48,169 --> 01:42:46,080
get Lou's book at the end of the year

2512
01:42:51,649 --> 01:42:48,179
could that be part of that

2513
01:42:53,570 --> 01:42:51,659
I hope so I mean Lou said when we read

2514
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:53,580
his books we're gonna say

2515
01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:56,639
oh that was really well now that makes

2516
01:43:00,169 --> 01:42:58,560
sense something like that so I hope the

2517
01:43:02,510 --> 01:43:00,179
book is a blockbuster and I hope that's

2518
01:43:04,729 --> 01:43:02,520
part of it I mean I don't know if you

2519
01:43:07,550 --> 01:43:04,739
guys remember but Steven Greer

2520
01:43:09,890 --> 01:43:07,560
love him or hate him uh said that Danny

2521
01:43:11,810 --> 01:43:09,900
Sheehan came to him and said Lou was in

2522
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:11,820
a government facility and he saw a craft

2523
01:43:17,330 --> 01:43:14,400
so maybe that'll be in the book I I

2524
01:43:19,609 --> 01:43:17,340
would think not you know Lou I think Lou

2525
01:43:21,770 --> 01:43:19,619
denied that and then Sean Cahill came in

2526
01:43:24,290 --> 01:43:21,780
really strong but I still think it might

2527
01:43:28,129 --> 01:43:26,149
um I'm only gonna stand for a couple

2528
01:43:31,250 --> 01:43:28,139
more minutes

2529
01:43:33,169 --> 01:43:31,260
James yeah we'll see

2530
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:33,179
I mean we keep hearing about James about

2531
01:43:36,290 --> 01:43:35,040
James Webb in announcements I mean sure

2532
01:43:37,729 --> 01:43:36,300
they're going to have eventually they're

2533
01:43:39,410 --> 01:43:37,739
going to have a breakthrough where that

2534
01:43:40,970 --> 01:43:39,420
would make more sense than

2535
01:43:42,350 --> 01:43:40,980
you know

2536
01:43:44,750 --> 01:43:42,360
saying

2537
01:43:47,330 --> 01:43:44,760
aliens are here people can accept a

2538
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:47,340
James Webb discovery on an exoplanet

2539
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:54,229
yes I don't consider it BS not yet

2540
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:56,639
because but and

2541
01:44:01,490 --> 01:43:59,280
Steve passett has been predicting

2542
01:44:02,570 --> 01:44:01,500
disclosure since the mid 90s when I got

2543
01:44:04,910 --> 01:44:02,580
into this

2544
01:44:06,169 --> 01:44:04,920
dedicated guy seems like a nice guy but

2545
01:44:10,250 --> 01:44:06,179
it's like you know

2546
01:44:12,169 --> 01:44:10,260
but it's not just him so I don't know

2547
01:44:13,790 --> 01:44:12,179
Ramirez had just answer for the next few

2548
01:44:15,590 --> 01:44:13,800
months to years no I think I thought he

2549
01:44:17,209 --> 01:44:15,600
said next year would be okay too it's

2550
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:17,219
just we've been waiting so long it

2551
01:44:21,530 --> 01:44:18,960
wouldn't be that much of a difference

2552
01:44:24,290 --> 01:44:21,540
from a few months to next year

2553
01:44:25,790 --> 01:44:24,300
uh I'd be happy with either one I don't

2554
01:44:27,290 --> 01:44:25,800
expect either one but things are

2555
01:44:29,689 --> 01:44:27,300
happening I mean like Michael said we

2556
01:44:31,729 --> 01:44:29,699
have hearings we never expected hearings

2557
01:44:33,890 --> 01:44:31,739
like this and I and we're talking you

2558
01:44:35,750 --> 01:44:33,900
know basically

2559
01:44:37,550 --> 01:44:35,760
it's like I said if it wasn't for

2560
01:44:39,709 --> 01:44:37,560
hearing about crash retrievals and

2561
01:44:42,050 --> 01:44:39,719
whistleblowers that hearing would just

2562
01:44:44,090 --> 01:44:42,060
be spectacular uh five years ago we

2563
01:44:47,390 --> 01:44:44,100
would be like oh my God I cannot believe

2564
01:44:49,070 --> 01:44:47,400
we're having a hearing on this

2565
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:49,080
we need to see results now been a long

2566
01:44:53,330 --> 01:44:51,600
time yeah I know I've been

2567
01:44:55,790 --> 01:44:53,340
for me it's

2568
01:44:58,850 --> 01:44:55,800
95 or so so

2569
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:58,860
Blue's books should be good and

2570
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:00,719
I'm really looking forward to that one

2571
01:45:06,530 --> 01:45:03,840
uh an arrow the arrow website yeah

2572
01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:08,810
the arrow website he said they submitted

2573
01:45:14,510 --> 01:45:12,719
it all that stuff by December

2574
01:45:16,609 --> 01:45:14,520
um so somebody's dragging their feet and

2575
01:45:19,250 --> 01:45:16,619
that's I think that's the the office

2576
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:19,260
office of um under secretary of defense

2577
01:45:23,870 --> 01:45:21,360
for intelligence and security

2578
01:45:26,030 --> 01:45:23,880
I think that's the same office Lou had a

2579
01:45:27,649 --> 01:45:26,040
problem with and I think

2580
01:45:30,109 --> 01:45:27,659
gillibrand said they're only supposed to

2581
01:45:33,530 --> 01:45:30,119
be providing uh administrative support

2582
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:36,229
we'll see I don't know I mean I don't I

2583
01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:38,159
don't really have expectations about

2584
01:45:43,550 --> 01:45:40,800
that big reveal so I listen I'm

2585
01:45:46,370 --> 01:45:43,560
interested and I hope but

2586
01:45:47,810 --> 01:45:46,380
I mean I like the topic as it is because

2587
01:45:50,109 --> 01:45:47,820
it's interesting

2588
01:45:53,270 --> 01:45:50,119
I would love to get some sort of

2589
01:45:56,149 --> 01:45:53,280
Revelation before I die in the house

2590
01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:56,159
hearings in June could be good

2591
01:45:59,930 --> 01:45:58,320
um even if it's just people we know

2592
01:46:01,910 --> 01:45:59,940
because the general public really hasn't

2593
01:46:04,129 --> 01:46:01,920
heard from Lou in a long form setting if

2594
01:46:07,129 --> 01:46:04,139
he's sitting there asking questions and

2595
01:46:10,129 --> 01:46:07,139
the Republicans are really tough as far

2596
01:46:14,030 --> 01:46:10,139
as asking questions the ones we saw

2597
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:14,040
um that would be fantastic and even then

2598
01:46:18,050 --> 01:46:15,920
you can get some of Lou's non

2599
01:46:20,209 --> 01:46:18,060
non-answers in a hearing setting would

2600
01:46:22,370 --> 01:46:20,219
be pretty good

2601
01:46:25,310 --> 01:46:22,380
Greer is holding disclosure in June I

2602
01:46:27,470 --> 01:46:25,320
know he has an event uh we'll see hey if

2603
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:27,480
he has good Witnesses all power to him I

2604
01:46:30,050 --> 01:46:29,280
mean

2605
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:30,060
um

2606
01:46:34,490 --> 01:46:32,159
we'll see that's only a couple of months

2607
01:46:38,750 --> 01:46:36,709
yeah I mean

2608
01:46:40,609 --> 01:46:38,760
I don't know how he supported himself

2609
01:46:42,410 --> 01:46:40,619
from from UFOs he doesn't really sell

2610
01:46:44,270 --> 01:46:42,420
anything Bassett he has his website

2611
01:46:46,189 --> 01:46:44,280
paradigm

2612
01:46:48,109 --> 01:46:46,199
research

2613
01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:48,119
um so

2614
01:46:51,410 --> 01:46:49,920
why do so many think they are coming

2615
01:46:52,850 --> 01:46:51,420
from another planet when it could be a

2616
01:46:55,070 --> 01:46:52,860
dimension here on Earth that's what I

2617
01:46:58,129 --> 01:46:55,080
didn't like about Kirkpatrick saying you

2618
01:47:00,310 --> 01:46:58,139
know anywhere from foreign adversary to

2619
01:47:02,689 --> 01:47:00,320
extraterrestrial which was an extreme

2620
01:47:04,729 --> 01:47:02,699
theory he said it's not an extreme

2621
01:47:06,890 --> 01:47:04,739
theory if you're a scientist there is no

2622
01:47:09,709 --> 01:47:06,900
extreme Theory either the data is there

2623
01:47:11,629 --> 01:47:09,719
or the data is not as far as non-human

2624
01:47:13,490 --> 01:47:11,639
not extraterrestrial I think you should

2625
01:47:15,890 --> 01:47:13,500
have said non-human or not just

2626
01:47:17,570 --> 01:47:15,900
anomalous it's really tough like I said

2627
01:47:19,250 --> 01:47:17,580
to figure out what it is even if we have

2628
01:47:20,930 --> 01:47:19,260
a crash retrieval with bodies you can

2629
01:47:23,149 --> 01:47:20,940
say well they look like they're not

2630
01:47:24,530 --> 01:47:23,159
human and we can't make that but you

2631
01:47:25,669 --> 01:47:24,540
can't say it's from another planet you

2632
01:47:28,189 --> 01:47:25,679
can't say it's in you know

2633
01:47:29,689 --> 01:47:28,199
extraterrestrial could be based here it

2634
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:29,699
could be future humans who the hell

2635
01:47:32,090 --> 01:47:31,440
knows you can't there's no way to prove

2636
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:32,100
that

2637
01:47:36,830 --> 01:47:34,320
I've made a joke unless it says made on

2638
01:47:39,470 --> 01:47:36,840
Mars on the on the on the aliens butt

2639
01:47:43,609 --> 01:47:39,480
you know or the or the saucer but

2640
01:47:47,330 --> 01:47:45,590
I have not done it I haven't even read

2641
01:47:49,970 --> 01:47:47,340
it all I haven't even read it you know

2642
01:47:51,530 --> 01:47:49,980
so I need to and I know there's a lot of

2643
01:47:54,350 --> 01:47:51,540
good stuff in there

2644
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:54,360
I could do a 10 hour forbidden signs

2645
01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:00,709
yeah we'll see we'll see that's that's

2646
01:48:05,209 --> 01:48:03,119
important if it's high level folks like

2647
01:48:07,310 --> 01:48:05,219
I said somebody if it's a name we know

2648
01:48:09,950 --> 01:48:07,320
from within the government saying I saw

2649
01:48:11,330 --> 01:48:09,960
X Y and Z that'll make a difference I

2650
01:48:13,129 --> 01:48:11,340
don't think it'll be enough it won't be

2651
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:13,139
proof and it won't be enough evidence

2652
01:48:17,870 --> 01:48:16,560
for people if it's just anecdotal

2653
01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:17,880
um

2654
01:48:21,169 --> 01:48:19,320
Moultrie I don't know if moultry

2655
01:48:24,590 --> 01:48:21,179
stonewalling multi was probably not

2656
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:24,600
given a lot of information on purpose

2657
01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:26,639
um

2658
01:48:32,870 --> 01:48:30,000
I don't know what this is in response to

2659
01:48:36,290 --> 01:48:32,880
but I think yeah how will people be able

2660
01:48:40,010 --> 01:48:36,300
to handle if I mean I I think ESP and

2661
01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:41,689
I don't think people are ready for a

2662
01:48:44,810 --> 01:48:43,560
world where there are no secrets Lou in

2663
01:48:46,010 --> 01:48:44,820
front of Congress would be great you

2664
01:48:48,169 --> 01:48:46,020
would think they would have already

2665
01:48:49,970 --> 01:48:48,179
since he was you would think I don't

2666
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:49,980
understand how he hasn't

2667
01:48:53,930 --> 01:48:52,320
he hasn't been in front how is

2668
01:48:56,090 --> 01:48:53,940
gillibrand not saying you know what I

2669
01:48:58,609 --> 01:48:56,100
want luellizando here maybe there's

2670
01:48:59,570 --> 01:48:58,619
something I'm missing

2671
01:49:01,609 --> 01:48:59,580
um

2672
01:49:03,229 --> 01:49:01,619
yeah maybe not 10 hours on valet's

2673
01:49:04,910 --> 01:49:03,239
latest book but I'd put a seven hour

2674
01:49:07,850 --> 01:49:04,920
Forbidden Science I need to do it

2675
01:49:11,629 --> 01:49:07,860
there's a lot of good stuff in there

2676
01:49:13,490 --> 01:49:11,639
I will try I will try

2677
01:49:15,709 --> 01:49:13,500
um all right I'm gonna go thanks again

2678
01:49:20,810 --> 01:49:15,719
guys thanks for the money the donations

2679
01:49:22,490 --> 01:49:20,820
the questions I appreciate it and I will

2680
01:49:24,050 --> 01:49:22,500
I don't know when I'm doing it again I

2681
01:49:25,490 --> 01:49:24,060
really need I really want to do the

2682
01:49:27,950 --> 01:49:25,500
Twitter stuff where I just go through my

2683
01:49:31,010 --> 01:49:27,960
there's so much good stuff on Twitter

2684
01:49:32,870 --> 01:49:31,020
or just play videos from shows and and

2685
01:49:34,550 --> 01:49:32,880
just comment on stuff because there's a

2686
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:34,560
lot of stuff going on even some of the

2687
01:49:39,709 --> 01:49:36,560
negative stuff is worth talking about

2688
01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:39,719
not really negative but

2689
01:49:48,709 --> 01:49:43,440
anyway all right I'm gonna go thank you

2690
01:49:53,570 --> 01:49:50,810
on some show I don't know what we're